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_tom_

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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2007, 10:16:36 PM »
Ben, seeing as you seem to have experience with different BK singlecoils, would you say a neck Trilogy can do smooth/fluid leads under gain (not as smooth or compressed as a humbucker obviously) whilst still retaining the classic singlecoil sound for cleans?

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2007, 10:22:54 PM »
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Ben, seeing as you seem to have experience with different BK singlecoils, would you say a neck Trilogy can do smooth/fluid leads under gain (not as smooth or compressed as a humbucker obviously) whilst still retaining the classic singlecoil sound for cleans?

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With high gain, the Trilogy plays itself lol.

It's a bit 'warmer' or 'thicker' than something like an Apache or Mother's Milk. More umph, and less chime.

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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2007, 10:28:14 PM »
haha cool sounds great :twisted: Should sound good in my Charvel which is pretty bright played acoustically..

Tim basically said its just a fat-sounding single- almost P90 ish in the bridge apparently.

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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2007, 10:40:15 PM »
I just found a clip with Yngwie.

At 3:25 you can hear him play some rhythm (not that scooped thing that goes on for 2 secs)  its something like that I am looking for in my bridge single coils.

The neck is more like the lead you see from Making love just afterwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQuhDSxYB1o

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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2007, 10:40:58 PM »
Before I had BKPs I had a couple of HS3s and an HS2- I have to say I personally thought they were the worst pickups I ever heard  :?

I might be wrong but I think YM played DiMarzio FS1 strat pups on the Alcatraz albums and on Rising Force (a vinyl I genuinely wore out before giving up the guitar for 20 years coz I could never ever be that good) - these are hot singles not the bucking HS3s - so the TS would be a more authentic choice.

Also YM played a Les Paul for some rythym tracks on Rising Force, so maybe that's what your'e hearing.
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2007, 10:49:28 PM »
you can tell in that clip when he's playing that vintage strat in the shop that it's got thicker strings than he's used to.. he looks to be struggling..

he uses 8's doesnt he?

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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2007, 11:01:46 PM »
He also just got in from the cold :)

He uses 8-46s, so do I of course :)

Well I dont its a Les Paul, it isnt fat enough.

Here is a clip of the tone I am talking about http://youtube.com/watch?v=eC4qhD8BOk0

EDIT:

I had almost forgot, another strat tone which is very similar to Yngwies that also like, is John Norums on The final Countdown.

Heres a clip http://youtube.com/watch?v=IvAnYidjOdY

That would still be trilogys?

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2007, 11:07:29 PM »
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EDIT:

I had almost forgot, another strat tone which is very similar to Yngwies that also like, is John Norums on The final Countdown.

Heres a clip http://youtube.com/watch?v=IvAnYidjOdY

That would still be trilogys?

Yes :)

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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2007, 11:20:42 PM »
Haha okay :)

I still cannot decide though.

What are the main sonic differences between the HS-3 and TS?

And I didnt get it Twilight, would the TS be able to sound like the rythm playing in the store clip and Rising force clip? Of course I need the chops, but basic tone so to say.? You know, not all twangy but making chords sound like chords instead of single notes ::)

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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2007, 03:33:01 AM »
The Rising Force clip is from the Live In Brazil video, which I've seen many times. The sound quality on that mpg is terrible; compressed all to hell! The original video sounds much better. The Trilogy will do that sound.

As for the music store tone ... I think it was rubbish! Sounded like a solid state or Valvestate amp. Not my thing. Plus, it was a vintage Fender being overdriven very hard. For that kind of sound, as well as any REALLY old Yngwie tone (like Evil Eye or Icarus) personally, I would use an Irish Tour before a Trilogy Suite.

My opinion, of course, based off of what I know about BKs and what I know about Yngwie.

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2007, 08:06:12 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2007, 09:00:12 AM »
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The Rising Force clip is from the Live In Brazil video, which I've seen many times. The sound quality on that mpg is terrible; compressed all to hell! The original video sounds much better. The Trilogy will do that sound.

As for the music store tone ... I think it was rubbish! Sounded like a solid state or Valvestate amp. Not my thing. Plus, it was a vintage Fender being overdriven very hard. For that kind of sound, as well as any REALLY old Yngwie tone (like Evil Eye or Icarus) personally, I would use an Irish Tour before a Trilogy Suite.

My opinion, of course, based off of what I know about BKs and what I know about Yngwie.
The tone in that clip was rubish yeah, but it was just to demonstrate what I meant by twangy. It just like, on my charvel, when I play A5 it sounds like a chord with a big sound, when I do it on the Fender it sounds like two individual strings. I hope you get what I mean :) What may cause this?

Its much more his Rising Force -> Eclipse I want with emphasis on the Odyssey sound. But of course so I can make it my own tone.

How would this do for more classical stuff? And clean sound?

And I am sorry for all my questions bro, I just want to be 100% certain :)


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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2007, 02:22:08 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2007, 03:07:08 PM »
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Its much more his Rising Force -> Eclipse I want with emphasis on the Odyssey sound. But of course so I can make it my own tone.

How would this do for more classical stuff? And clean sound?

Yes, I think that the Trilogy will do both of those sounds. It also depends on how clean the clean channel on your ENGL is. I remember the the clean on my ENGL preamp being very clean, much more so than the clean channel on my Splawn. But I've never had a problem getting clean tones from the Trilogy.

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« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2007, 04:26:43 PM »
the trilogy RULES.

i LOVE the cleans and the overdriven tones are sick!