Author Topic: Alnico Warpig vs Ceramic Warpig (Read 22360 times)

BloodMountain · « **on:** February 12, 2007, 01:27:01 PM »

hi

can anyone compare these two pickups please?
im really not sure which one to get, and im sure more people would benefit from this info, just a straight up comparison.

thanks a lot, BM

MDV · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2007, 05:24:13 PM »

The A5 WP is more organic, mids are more detailed and the highs are sweeter.

CWP is more surgical, higher gain (though not by that much), tighter and sharper with smoother mids.

I'd go for the CWP if youre leaning toward very fast, precise heavy music, WP if you love mids and arent gonna play anything that needs to much exactitude: the WP can do that but the CWP does it better.

Hope this helped.

TonyGibson · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2007, 05:39:01 PM »

Don't know if this helps, but I plan on uploading a clip of my Ibanez with the Ceramic Warpig pretty soon. It will be "Worlds Within The Margin" by In Flames recorded through a Damage Control Demonizer.

ericsabbath · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2007, 10:46:47 PM »

judging by soundclips i prefer the alnico pig
the ceramic sounds tighter and heavier, but too bright and crispy
i wanna hear some alnico miracle man clips :?

BloodMountain · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2007, 11:02:46 PM »

Quote from: TonyGibson

Don't know if this helps, but I plan on uploading a clip of my Ibanez with the Ceramic Warpig pretty soon. It will be "Worlds Within The Margin" by In Flames recorded through a Damage Control Demonizer.

if you can, that would be great!

do you think that Tim could wind the CWP to make it sound less bright? because right now, the brightness of the pickup sounds too much for my liking....... hmmmm and i would also like to have an organic tone myself...... this is a hard one....

BM

TonyGibson · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2007, 12:45:01 AM »

Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN

do you think that Tim could wind the CWP to make it sound less bright? because right now, the brightness of the pickup sounds too much for my liking....... hmmmm and i would also like to have an organic tone myself...... this is a hard one....

BM

I would approach it the other way then...I'd ask him to wind an Alnico V Warpig to be brighter, if that's even necessary. Both sound great to me in the sound clips, but to confirm, the CWP is quite bright.

ericsabbath · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2007, 02:08:39 AM »

TonyGibson,

do you have some heavy demonizer clips? :twisted:

i've read about a 23k overwound alnico miracle man :roll:
i'm curious about how it sounds :?
maybe like a sharper and less mid-heavy alnico warpig :P

TonyGibson · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2007, 04:12:58 AM »

Quote from: Eric Hellstyle

TonyGibson,

do you have some heavy demonizer clips? :twisted:

i've read about a 23k overwound alnico miracle man :roll:
i'm curious about how it sounds :?
maybe like a sharper and less mid-heavy alnico warpig :P

Here's a quick and dirty clip I did two seconds ago. Basically it's my Ibanez with the ceramic painkiller into my Maxon overdrive into the Demonizer into the POD xt via USB. Don't mind the sloppiness...I did it quickly as I gotta get to bed soon. I'll record some better ones in a few days. The next ones I'll record will be much cleaner and without the POD...meaning it will be the Demonizer straight into the computer.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=4D3216073BDE9D54

JoshuaLogan · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2007, 07:07:01 AM »

so, the CWP is really bright?

ugh, I don't want a really bright pickup... this complicates things even further :(

BloodMountain · « **Reply #9 on:** February 13, 2007, 08:35:15 AM »

Quote from: JoshuaLogan

so, the CWP is really bright?

ugh, I don't want a really bright pickup... this complicates things even further :(

that's exactly what im thinking at the moment! :( maybe we should just go for Alnico Warpigs? or could Tim wind them so that they have the same gain as the Ceramics....

BM

BloodMountain · « **Reply #10 on:** February 13, 2007, 08:37:17 AM »

Quote from: TonyGibson

Quote from: Eric Hellstyle
TonyGibson,

do you have some heavy demonizer clips? :twisted:

i've read about a 23k overwound alnico miracle man :roll:
i'm curious about how it sounds :?
maybe like a sharper and less mid-heavy alnico warpig :P

Here's a quick and dirty clip I did two seconds ago. Basically it's my Ibanez with the ceramic painkiller into my Maxon overdrive into the Demonizer into the POD xt via USB. Don't mind the sloppiness...I did it quickly as I gotta get to bed soon. I'll record some better ones in a few days. The next ones I'll record will be much cleaner and without the POD...meaning it will be the Demonizer straight into the computer.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=4D3216073BDE9D54

Don't you mean Ceramic Warpig????
It sounds very awesome, but i can see the brightness now, which isn't what i want. Alnico it is then, i suppose.

BM

99_not_out · « **Reply #11 on:** February 13, 2007, 09:58:16 AM »

I have an Alnico WP set in an SG, definitely dark ... can't compare to the ceramic pigs other than the clips I've heard - but based on that I would agree with MDV. The Alnico Pig is more middy (NOT muddy) and has a warmer sound than the ceramic version. Can do a pretty precise chug too, I must get round to uploading some clips sometime ...

BloodMountain · « **Reply #12 on:** February 13, 2007, 11:48:00 AM »

has it got over the top gain??? i want it that way, so i can make medium gain amps sound heavy :twisted:

BM

TonyGibson · « **Reply #13 on:** February 13, 2007, 02:35:23 PM »

My sole reason for picking ceramic is that this guitar will eventually (as in this week) be tuned to C Standard and Drop B. I would *think* that a ceramic pickup would be better for that top of tuning than Alnico due to the clarity and bite of the ceramic magnet. That's all theory of course and I'm sure the Alnico works for alternate (lower) tunings as well.

Also, I'm generally playing this guitar through a Mesa/Boogie which I consider to be a very dark amp as it is. Combine the toppy nature of the CWP with the dark nature of Mesa amps and you have a pretty well rounded (yet devestating) metal sound.

Bloodmountain, just so you know, I CRANKED the tone control on my Maxon and Demonizer...I personally like a very bright sound, so don't think that's what it always sounds like. I can try to post another one tonight without the Maxon.

BloodMountain · « **Reply #14 on:** February 13, 2007, 02:57:50 PM »

Quote from: TonyGibson

My sole reason for picking ceramic is that this guitar will eventually (as in this week) be tuned to C Standard and Drop B. I would *think* that a ceramic pickup would be better for that top of tuning than Alnico due to the clarity and bite of the ceramic magnet. That's all theory of course and I'm sure the Alnico works for alternate (lower) tunings as well.

Also, I'm generally playing this guitar through a Mesa/Boogie which I consider to be a very dark amp as it is. Combine the toppy nature of the CWP with the dark nature of Mesa amps and you have a pretty well rounded (yet devestating) metal sound.

Bloodmountain, just so you know, I CRANKED the tone control on my Maxon and Demonizer...I personally like a very bright sound, so don't think that's what it always sounds like. I can try to post another one tonight without the Maxon.

i see.

oh and check out Drac's clips of Alnico Warpigs in a Baritone guitar, it sounds deadly and crushing! he did 2 clips....

BM