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TwilightOdyssey

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2007, 05:35:48 PM »
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I'm like noodles, i have a Laney GH50L and it does the job well but my ideal amp would be a Mesa Boogie for that classic Metallica thrash sound.
Though if i had to choose i'd pick Marshall.

Only if you consider "classic" Metallica to be Justice and after. Prior to that, they were playing Marshalls!! (which is what I would consider 'classic' Metallica) PDT_008
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Crazy_Joe

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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2007, 07:45:13 PM »
They used them on master of puppets too i think, i consider that classic metallica and things before that old school metallica, but you just cant get their sound with a marshall after the ride the lightning period, you can get close though with the laney and custom warpig.
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noodleplugerine

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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2007, 08:01:30 PM »
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I wouldn't buy either - But if someone forced me I'd have to survive with the Marshall.

Curious about this post. What is your amp of choice? I notice you don't like the Vox you currently own, either. Fender ... Marshall .. Vox ... those are all classic tones. What is your ideal amp tone, if money were no object?


Mesa, Engle, even a fat Diezel if I had the money.

Something with huge gain and great tone, more modern amps you could say. Fender amps in my expierience lean to 60s tones, and Marshalls to 70s and 80s metal tones - I'm often wrong in these situations, but personally, I've yet to play a Marshall or a Fender which don't give the typical Marshall and Fender tones.
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TwilightOdyssey

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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2007, 09:37:44 PM »
Re: expecting a diffent basic tone from either Fender or Marshall: Neither Fender nor Marshall are about to throw away their respective babies with the bath water at this point. However, I can see your point re: wanting a tone that's different. After playing a JCM800 for many years, I went for a Splawn, which is similar to the 800 but with higher resolution and better sound. The gain structure is the same, though.

ENGL's basic tone is that of a modded Marshall in many respects, but the Diezel definitely has a sound all its own. I use a VH-4 @ rehearsal most weeks -- very versatile amp!
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TwilightOdyssey

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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2007, 09:41:48 PM »
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They used them on master of puppets too i think, i consider that classic metallica and things before that old school metallica, but you just cant get their sound with a marshall after the ride the lightning period, you can get close though with the laney and custom warpig.

It was a Mesa preamp with a Marshall power amp on Puppets, actually. I don't know what they used on the tour, however. The stage setup they used when they opened for Ozzy had no amps visible.
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Crazy_Joe

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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2007, 10:40:33 PM »
Ah, well it doesn't sound very Marshally to my ears so i tend to think the end of the Metallica-Marshall era is Ride the Lightning. Still great tones though!
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Black Dogs

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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2007, 11:17:15 AM »
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey

ENGL's basic tone is that of a modded Marshall in many respects, but the Diezel definitely has a sound all its own. I use a VH-4 @ rehearsal most weeks -- very versatile amp!



wow...that Diezel stuff is pretty cool, I have been playing some times on a Diezel Herbert, really cool distortion tones on that stuff, and also very nice cleans! It is very nice for country style playing, but I haven't seen a country guitars playing a diezel though :-)
I wish I had one...

BTW a little off topic...are there some people here that know a little about tubes? I would like to "change" certain sounds on my amp (lets's say I want channel 3 a little more "oomph")....can I realise that by just changing preamp tubes, or is this certainly it has something to do with transformers and stuff?
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2007, 12:23:44 PM »
my avatar gives away my response here.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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samoth2

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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2007, 12:46:09 PM »
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my avatar gives away my response here.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Nice Marshall you got there  :lol:
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noodleplugerine

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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2007, 01:32:34 PM »
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my avatar gives away my response here.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Nice Marshall you got there  :lol:


Hahaha

Made my day.  

You win a cookie.
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samoth2

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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2007, 01:47:15 PM »
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: Jp.
my avatar gives away my response here.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Nice Marshall you got there  :lol:


Hahaha

Made my day.  

You win a cookie.


Someone actually likes my humor  :o
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noodleplugerine

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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2007, 02:28:13 PM »
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: Jp.
my avatar gives away my response here.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Nice Marshall you got there  :lol:


Hahaha

Made my day.  

You win a cookie.


Someone actually likes my humor  :o


Hell yeah :D

Love that sort of thing. Denying the obvious is awesome, that's why I enjoyed Sex Lives of the Potato Men so much last night xD
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samoth2

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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2007, 02:39:11 PM »
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: Jp.
my avatar gives away my response here.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Nice Marshall you got there  :lol:


Hahaha

Made my day.  

You win a cookie.


Someone actually likes my humor  :o


Hell yeah :D

Love that sort of thing. Denying the obvious is awesome, that's why I enjoyed Sex Lives of the Potato Men so much last night xD


Sex Lives of the Potato Men? Sounds weird :D
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noodleplugerine

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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2007, 02:45:12 PM »
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: Jp.
my avatar gives away my response here.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Nice Marshall you got there  :lol:


Hahaha

Made my day.  

You win a cookie.


Someone actually likes my humor  :o


Hell yeah :D

Love that sort of thing. Denying the obvious is awesome, that's why I enjoyed Sex Lives of the Potato Men so much last night xD


Sex Lives of the Potato Men? Sounds weird :D


It's some crazy Brittish movie, but like it's VERY Brittish. So Brittish they didn't both releasing it anywhere else :P
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ESP Horizon NTII.
ESP Viper Camo.
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samoth2

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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2007, 02:48:18 PM »
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: noodleplugerine
Quote from: samoth2
Quote from: Jp.
my avatar gives away my response here.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Nice Marshall you got there  :lol:


Hahaha

Made my day.  

You win a cookie.


Someone actually likes my humor  :o


Hell yeah :D

Love that sort of thing. Denying the obvious is awesome, that's why I enjoyed Sex Lives of the Potato Men so much last night xD


Sex Lives of the Potato Men? Sounds weird :D


It's some crazy Brittish movie, but like it's VERY Brittish. So Brittish they didn't both releasing it anywhere else :P


 :P

Nice Viper btw. Not really a fan of camo paintjobs but I really like the body shape  :)  :lol:
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