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« Reply #150 on: March 22, 2007, 10:36:30 PM »
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i am going to go with ENGL because their combos are cheap for what you get.

I believe the phrase is 'great bang for the buck'. Sounds a lot nicer. :)

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« Reply #151 on: March 22, 2007, 10:43:18 PM »
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i am going to go with ENGL because their combos are cheap for what you get.

I believe the phrase is 'great bang for the buck'. Sounds a lot nicer. :)


heh. yeah.

seriously speaking though, if it ain't well known, then i wouldn't risk it. go with the majority, they are usually always right.
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« Reply #152 on: March 22, 2007, 10:58:54 PM »
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Now _THAT_ is an amp.


exactly.

everyone - there is a lesson to be learnt here. well, actually most of you have already learnt it!
DONT spend 10 pages of amp recommendation threads talking about SS/impractical/unestablished amps.
if you want the job done, buy the right tool.
and ENGL, Mesa, Marshall, or Laney is the right tool for this job, and i am going to go with ENGL because their combos are cheap for what you get.


I don't mean to sound annoying but how did you actually reach a conclusion without actually trying anything? I agree that ENGLs are nice though, but you'll have to pay 100 quid for a footswitch which is kinda rip off.

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« Reply #153 on: March 22, 2007, 11:06:15 PM »
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Now _THAT_ is an amp.


exactly.

everyone - there is a lesson to be learnt here. well, actually most of you have already learnt it!
DONT spend 10 pages of amp recommendation threads talking about SS/impractical/unestablished amps.
if you want the job done, buy the right tool.
and ENGL, Mesa, Marshall, or Laney is the right tool for this job, and i am going to go with ENGL because their combos are cheap for what you get.


I don't mean to sound annoying but how did you actually reach a conclusion without actually trying anything? I agree that ENGLs are nice though, but you'll have to pay 100 quid for a footswitch which is kinda rip off.


the clip was good, (i have seen many good comments about rocksolidamps.com anyway) it has a V30 already in, and that is really a descision for trying out amps........ although it sounded like i meant "i will now buy an engl" but i meant what i said about the right tools for the job. i forgot to mention the Peavey 5150 though, that's very popular too.

meh, i wont need the footswitch that much..... i will only need clean for a couple of clean intros where i can set my volume knob low, then bring it full on for the heavier bits  :twisted:

EDIT: and if you said that because i didn't consider laney, it's because i can't try them out because nowhere around here sells them AT ALL.... which sucks.
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« Reply #154 on: March 22, 2007, 11:33:30 PM »
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i was only kidding friend :wink: I know better than most people on ehre what it's like to be under 18 and broke. (I'm 17 and i've spent my wages before they've come...damnit)
I'd definately recommend the screamer to you. When i've played it i've always thought it was PLENTY heavy without a screamer, with one it'd SLAY, i'm sure of it.


ok dude. s'all good.

thanks for the info, the screamer is in my price range, and sounds like an amp for me........ need clips though  :)
yeah, i don't have perfect taste  :wink:

dave_mc, would you say the Thunder Drive (E322) would be better suited for metal? i think it's tghe same price......

thanks dudes  :D


haven't tried the thunder, unfortunately- from what I hear, it has less gain than a screamer (and one less channel), but you probably want to try to make sure (understatement!).

oh, and cheap for what you get has a certain ring to it, lol.

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« Reply #155 on: March 22, 2007, 11:34:52 PM »
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I don't mean to sound annoying but how did you actually reach a conclusion without actually trying anything? I agree that ENGLs are nice though, but you'll have to pay 100 quid for a footswitch which is kinda rip off.


I wouldn't say "have to", you can make do with one of the cheapo 2 button ones, but yeah, to get the nice footswitch is expensive.

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« Reply #156 on: March 23, 2007, 08:56:44 AM »
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I don't mean to sound annoying but how did you actually reach a conclusion without actually trying anything? I agree that ENGLs are nice though, but you'll have to pay 100 quid for a footswitch which is kinda rip off.


I wouldn't say "have to", you can make do with one of the cheapo 2 button ones, but yeah, to get the nice footswitch is expensive.


Very good point Dave. Would any stereo ones work or does it have one of those funny connection pins? The ENGL one is still £40 quid or something silly.

Bloodmountain, I wasn't saying that because you didn'y consider a  Laney, Im not that narrow minded. In fact, I own four amps and they are all different brands. I was just a bit annoyed by your "recommending SS/unestablished brands is pointless" comment because I would normally never recommend those but I thought you might prefer them to tube amps (because they are cheaper) so I did. If you have the cash for a tube amp, go for it. No disputes there.

When you try it out, don't let the initial excitement get the better of you. Try many other amps, maybe leave the shop for an hour or two and come back and see if you still think it's as good as you thought. Worst thing you can do when choosing an amp is to have prejudice and rush into a decision. I know because I used to do it a lot. Good luck!

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« Reply #157 on: March 23, 2007, 02:48:27 PM »
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Bloodmountain, I wasn't saying that because you didn'y consider a  Laney, Im not that narrow minded. In fact, I own four amps and they are all different brands. I was just a bit annoyed by your "recommending SS/unestablished brands is pointless" comment because I would normally never recommend those but I thought you might prefer them to tube amps (because they are cheaper) so I did. If you have the cash for a tube amp, go for it. No disputes there.

When you try it out, don't let the initial excitement get the better of you. Try many other amps, maybe leave the shop for an hour or two and come back and see if you still think it's as good as you thought. Worst thing you can do when choosing an amp is to have prejudice and rush into a decision. I know because I used to do it a lot. Good luck!

i only said that comment because looking at SS and unestablished amps was getting me nowhere: there are either mixed or no opinions on them, and most of them weren't in stock anywhere near me. the shops around here all have the popular ones in stock, so that's another reason.

i'll try to think about the tone while i'm playing it for the first time, instead of just thinking "woweeeee! let's fire out some riffs!"
thanks for the advice though.
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« Reply #158 on: March 23, 2007, 06:56:48 PM »
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I don't mean to sound annoying but how did you actually reach a conclusion without actually trying anything? I agree that ENGLs are nice though, but you'll have to pay 100 quid for a footswitch which is kinda rip off.


I wouldn't say "have to", you can make do with one of the cheapo 2 button ones, but yeah, to get the nice footswitch is expensive.


Very good point Dave. Would any stereo ones work or does it have one of those funny connection pins? The ENGL one is still £40 quid or something silly.

Bloodmountain, I wasn't saying that because you didn'y consider a  Laney, Im not that narrow minded. In fact, I own four amps and they are all different brands. I was just a bit annoyed by your "recommending SS/unestablished brands is pointless" comment because I would normally never recommend those but I thought you might prefer them to tube amps (because they are cheaper) so I did. If you have the cash for a tube amp, go for it. No disputes there.

When you try it out, don't let the initial excitement get the better of you. Try many other amps, maybe leave the shop for an hour or two and come back and see if you still think it's as good as you thought. Worst thing you can do when choosing an amp is to have prejudice and rush into a decision. I know because I used to do it a lot. Good luck!


assuming it's the same as my savage se, there's a socket for the expensive 6-button one, which is a bit like a computer lead socket (technical term, obviously!), but there should also be a jack type socket for a more simple 2-button one.

I use the really cheapo engl ones, they were around £25- though i assume anything would do it, laney and marshall ones are more like £15, but you'd want to make sure. Plus the engl ones at £25 are a bit, er, cost-effective, the lead's not very long and they're made of light plastic etc. Main reason I went for them (4 of 'em) was that it let me foot-switch more options than the 6-button controller.

Agreed on the trying out advice.

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« Reply #159 on: March 24, 2007, 12:45:19 PM »
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i was only kidding friend :wink: I know better than most people on ehre what it's like to be under 18 and broke. (I'm 17 and i've spent my wages before they've come...damnit)
I'd definately recommend the screamer to you. When i've played it i've always thought it was PLENTY heavy without a screamer, with one it'd SLAY, i'm sure of it.


ok dude. s'all good.

thanks for the info, the screamer is in my price range, and sounds like an amp for me........ need clips though  :)
yeah, i don't have perfect taste  :wink:

dave_mc, would you say the Thunder Drive (E322) would be better suited for metal? i think it's tghe same price......

thanks dudes  :D


haven't tried the thunder, unfortunately- from what I hear, it has less gain than a screamer (and one less channel), but you probably want to try to make sure (understatement!).

oh, and cheap for what you get has a certain ring to it, lol.


so would you say that with a tubescreamer in front, it would have enough gain?

and will it sound very similar to the Screamer?

sorry for the thread resurrection, but the Thunder Drive E322 (without reverb) is 100 quid cheaper than the Screamer......

Thanks!
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« Reply #160 on: March 24, 2007, 04:59:02 PM »
get the screamer if you want metal. definately. A decent tube screamer is likely to set you back more than a hundred anyways, and the screamer by itself will sound better than the thunder with a tubescreamer. The screamer also has a lot more features.
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« Reply #161 on: March 24, 2007, 05:00:25 PM »
haven't tried the thunder, unfortunately. I know mdv tried the thunder versus screamer and picked the screamer, but you'd be best to ask him what the differences were... I don't want to be putting words in his mouth, he's plenty eloquent himself, lol!

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« Reply #162 on: March 24, 2007, 05:00:47 PM »
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get the screamer if you want metal. definately. A decent tube screamer is likely to set you back more than a hundred anyways, and the screamer by itself will sound better than the thunder with a tubescreamer. The screamer also has a lot more features.


thanks, dude! i will ask MDV via pm for his opinions on the Screamer
(he does have one, doesn't he???)
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« Reply #163 on: March 24, 2007, 05:03:00 PM »
^ yeah.

degoey who used to hang out around here had/has one too (he had tim's old one), but I haven't seen him around for a while.

You might as well ask mdv what he thought of the thunder too.

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« Reply #164 on: March 24, 2007, 05:07:21 PM »
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^ yeah.

degoey who used to hang out around here had/has one too (he had tim's old one), but I haven't seen him around for a while.

You might as well ask mdv what he thought of the thunder too.

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thanks  :D
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