Author Topic: Pedal gd for SS amp (Read 9633 times)

Dane · « **on:** March 16, 2007, 12:55:43 AM »

Hi,
I was wondering if any of you have come across a dist/od pedal that sound as gd even on SS amp?? It do not need tube amp 2 make it sound gd but of coz with tube amp it sound beta. As for most cases da dist/od pedal sounds awesome thru tube amp but mediocre thru ss amp.
THX

Mr Ed · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2007, 08:51:49 AM »

For anything other than basic practise, solid state amps are ass. You can't polish a turd.

LazyNinja · « **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2007, 08:54:43 AM »

First of all, please delete the other two identical threads.

OD pedals will almost always sound better in a tube amp, I wouldn't buy one if I was going to use it on a SS. As for a good distortion pedal try a Keeley MT-2, it may take a while to set it up but it's a fantastic pedal and it's not that much money.

indysmith · « **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2007, 09:44:28 AM »

the money for any pedal that makes a SS amp sound good can be far better spent on a good valve amp :P

Ratrod · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2007, 11:13:01 AM »

I've plugged my H&K Tube Factor into a ss Marshall Mosfet combo once. It actually began to sound like a Marshall.

Elliot · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2007, 12:15:29 PM »

Award Session JD10

gingataff · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2007, 01:05:17 PM »

How about an MXR Dime Distortion seeing as Dimebag was using SS Randalls at the time?

Mr Ed · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2007, 03:05:22 PM »

Quote from: gingataff

How about an MXR Dime Distortion seeing as Dimebag was using SS Randalls at the time?

Yeah, but only because he could never find a tube amp that sounded as loud while remaining as dirty... that is until Krank came along. Then Dime joined the tube army.

Plus, as much as I love the guy, Dimebag's tone was pretty harsh and one-dimensional. It was a grrrrreat metal tone but the DD pedal is exactly the same... I bought one and it's not exactly what you'd call "subtle".

sgmypod · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2007, 03:11:37 PM »

I loved my old guvnr or drivemaster although is a long time since I had a SS

Dane · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2007, 04:47:21 PM »

Well a gd tube amp will always make any pedal sounds descent, but so far i came across this few that i think is gd od pedals. Skreddy screwdriver, Blackstone 2sv3, Boss BD-2. So far dis r few of my fav. So tryin 2 look out for others like maybe T.Rex, Banzai etc

indysmith · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2007, 05:09:37 PM »

i'm beginning to think yu're a retard. your sentences aren't making sense man, probably because you're typing in some unfathomable form of pre-pubescent text language.
Also what you're considering is retarded. A T-rex through a solid state amp is still going to sound like shitee. Spend £300 on a Klon Centaur and a solid state amp will still sound like a solid state amp. if you want a valve sound, save ur your pennies and buy a valve amp. there is no other way. i promise. If there was a cheaper way of doing it, then i'm sure every guitarist on god's green earth would have a) done it and b) told you how to do it too. I appreciate that valve amps are expensive, but if you want a the sound of a specific valve amp on a budget, then there are plenty of good modelling combos which will sound like it, albeit in a somewhat more 2-dimensional manner.
for the time being technology hasn't got far enough to replicate a valve amp convincingly yet. especially not using only a pedal. Sorry.

PhilKing · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2007, 05:53:47 PM »

Quote from: indysmith

i'm beginning to think yu're a retard. your sentences aren't making sense man, probably because you're typing in some unfathomable form of pre-pubescent text language.

I think you will find that he is not English, the handle suggests Danish, but I'm not sure.

I have an old SS Yamaha practice amp that I sometimes use in my office. The Blackstone works well with it, and can even give me harmonic feedback, but the Yamaha has a very good tone to start with.

Quote from: indysmith

Also what you're considering is retarded. A T-rex through a solid state amp is still going to sound like shitee. Spend £300 on a Klon Centaur and a solid state amp will still sound like a solid state amp.

If I run my Klon Cenatur into anything, it gives a great sound - have you actually tried one before you make a sweeping statement like this? There are good and bad solid state amps, and if you are using a decent one it is quite possible to put some effects on the front of it to give it some valve characteristics.

I do typically use all valve amps, but in the past is have used the HH VS and also a Vox Dominator, both of which are solid atate. I also have a Roland Bolt 60, which is a hybrid, and have played with guys using Marshall Valve state where they have had a great sound.

Buying a good pedal is never retarded, it will still give a good sound if you change amps. Would you tell him not to change pickups to BK's because he will still get a cr@p sound through SS?

Dane · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2007, 06:01:48 PM »

indysmith:Ooooh well maybe i am a retard like u say. :lol: I am juz asking for opinions. A tube amp is definitely wat i wish 2 get but ooh well my aparment is so small n surrounded by neighbours dat dun tolerate me playin loud. SO juz tinkin of an alternatives. Anyway ss amp are nt shite, its juz nt as gd as Tubes. But i do have frens dat believe SS and Tube are two different beast for different purposes. Anyway if i get tube amp, i still cant crank it, so i still will have to use pedals. Like now what i have is Skreddy SD which is an axesome pedal. And i did not mention about goin after tube tone, juz looking for a pedal that sound gd thru ss amp.

Dane · « **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2007, 06:06:04 PM »

PhilKing:Thx for understanding. SS and Tube are different .I had tried some of both, and not all Tube amp sounds gd and all SS amps sounds bad.

Kilby · « **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:25:44 PM »

Just to chip in.

There are several SS technologys for amp building and they produce completely different sounds.

There are solid state amps that depending on sound the sound you want can do a damned good job. In the 80s there where a number of MOSFET based amps that where actually nice, HH where one such company, but there where several others

Tech 21 amps are also pretty dammed good for non valve.

Some pedals can sound good on Solid State (there are many that sound bad whatever you put them through). Theres valve amps that will never sound good. People are very critical of the Marshall Valvestate for example but I have genuinely heard good sounds from them (no not the sound of it falling down the stairs)

If I had a SS amp and wanted a more valve like sound (without buying a valve amp) I'd get a modelling amp (probably a Vox)

Yes I prefer valve, most of use prefer valve but sometimes it's not the best solution, often due to price.

I do have to add that the SMS style shorthand makes the reading the posting annoying to read.

Rob...