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MDV

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« on: April 09, 2007, 03:56:38 PM »
Hey guys.

I've got a miracle man in the bridge of an epi explorer at the moment, and I'm thinking of swapping it for something less powerfull. I'm in at least three minds about it though.

1. the miracle man sounds great. Not entirely my bag though, it doesnt have as much power as I usually like, but its tonally great for thrashy metal, which I do like to play.

2. But I have some really fantastic metal guitars, and its not really doing anything that they dont already do, and not as well.

3. I very much like blues and jazz, but I dont have a guitar well geared up for it. The MM absolutely does not do these sounds well. Not well at all.

So I'm thinking either:

Leave it, it does sound good.

Or

Replace the bridge pickup with something that can do both blues, jazz and hot up if I want it to (so much what what defines those styles is how you play anyway). This leaves me with perhaps Mule through to HD as my options.

Or

Stormy monday, and mellow the guitar out as much as possble.

What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2007, 04:00:47 PM »
Swap it for a Mule - the Great Allrounder  :D
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2007, 04:14:44 PM »
Riff-Raff as recommended by Tim, for a vintage tone. Good hunt :)
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2007, 04:23:27 PM »
The Explorer has a LOT of mass; I'm not sure how a vintage pup would get along in that guitar. Is the guitar mahogany?
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MDV

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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2007, 04:30:21 PM »
Oh, shite, did I say explorer? I do have an epi explorer, but this is an epi LP  :lol:

Its mahogany and alder. Les Paul. Not explorer! Sorry bout that.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2007, 05:27:23 PM »
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Oh, shitee, did I say explorer? I do have an epi explorer, but this is an epi LP  :lol:

Well, you get 10 lashes with a wet noodle.  :roll:

That changes things!
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2007, 05:34:46 PM »
mellowing out? you? what next, TO deciding super-strats are over-rated?

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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2007, 06:56:22 PM »
Indeed it does, TO.

Yeah, dave, it looks a little odd! The tones I've felt the complusion to get sorted are metal ones with some mollowness capability. Now my guitars have that covered admirably, I'm thinking about indulging my other musical vices. I've got an opportunity with this Epi LP gold top to make a better blues guitar than a metal one, given that its scale isnt up my street for metal (25.5 is where its at!) and the vibe of the guitar from playing it just makes me want to slow down and bend some strings in pentatonic and blues shapes!

Also on the backburner: I'm keeping my eye out for a mex strat to put some slowhands or apaches in. I love that 2nd position quack with RPRW pickups, and none of my flamethrower guitars can do it!

Lulsug and twinfan, thanks for the suggestions. Mule was pretty close to the top of my list. I'm also thinking nailbomb, just in case I want to push an amp harder, but have it in parralel. I dunno, though.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2007, 07:46:19 PM »
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Yeah, dave, it looks a little odd! The tones I've felt the complusion to get sorted are metal ones with some mollowness capability. Now my guitars have that covered admirably, I'm thinking about indulging my other musical vices. I've got an opportunity with this Epi LP gold top to make a better blues guitar than a metal one, given that its scale isnt up my street for metal (25.5 is where its at!) and the vibe of the guitar from playing it just makes me want to slow down and bend some strings in pentatonic and blues shapes!


yeah, it's always nice to branch out... I'm kinda screwed in that I like a little of everything... i have a slight bent for 80's stuff and shred, but give me a guitar aimed at more vintage tones (and/or amp), and I'll only be playing those vintage tones too... which is annoying/expensive.

:lol:

anyway, don't want to divert your thread any more, man! Good luck!

:thu:

oh yeah, on the pickup front, I really dug TO's riff-raff/Stormy Monday clips, maybe he has the link handy. though, if I remember right, his agile is mahogany/maple, not mahogany/alder. But my guess is his suggestions are better than clips are, lol.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2007, 08:18:38 PM »
In the range of pups you're considering moving to:

They will all get you where you want to go, but you have to push em if you want to get em to scream like the Miracle Man.

If you like what the MM does to the tone but are looking to do that with a more vintage-style pup, you can look into the VHII or Riff Raff.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2007, 09:20:34 PM »
Yeah, Dave, it could easily never end! And for many, some round here, it hasnt, and look at TO, philing and others, the amount of guitars and amps they have! Everyone round here either thinks I'm nuts or looks in awe at my 3 amps and 8 guitars  :lol:

Cheers TO. I hear, by word and sound clip, that they're quite bright rock n' roll pickups. True? Bull? See, if there was are any sound that can be made with a guitar that I want to AVOID its rock 'n roll.....and indie. My how I hate indie. And punk. I never heard a punk tone I liked.

I'd like something smooth, wide and rich sounding, at the warmer end of the BK spectrum. Clear and articulate, though, obviously.

I may hold off for that strat, though. Most of the blues sounds I really like come from strats.

On the humbucker side of things I'm thinking Peter Green, Paul Kossoff, gary moore. But not as bright as any of them (though green had a great high end in his sound!) Warmer and jazzier. Joe pass, wes montgomery, pat methany, lenny breau, but I dont like semi-accoustics  :lol: .

I dont want to immitate a sound, though, those are just a few refference points. Were I to pick one main one it would be.........gah!.......kossoff, heartbreaker tone. But not quite, cos it'll be mine, damnit!!  :lol:
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2007, 09:46:09 PM »
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Yeah, Dave, it could easily never end! And for many, some round here, it hasnt, and look at TO, philing and others, the amount of guitars and amps they have! Everyone round here either thinks I'm nuts or looks in awe at my 3 amps and 8 guitars  :lol:


hehe, i know what you mean!

I like a neck humbucker for blues, sounds excellent, in my opinion, it needs to be pretty vintage-voiced, though. if you want jazzy tone, though, you might get away with it, they slightly overlap (or at least, the kind of neck humbucker bluesy tone I like is a bit jazzy too, might be a better way to describe it).

I like strats too, of course. and teles. and... cr@p.

 :lol:

EDIT: semi-acoustics are awesome. that's blasphemy.  :lol: oh and +1 on not liking indie or punk. i quite like rock n roll, though.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2007, 10:59:37 PM »
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On the humbucker side of things I'm thinking Peter Green, Paul Kossoff, gary moore. But not as bright as any of them (though green had a great high end in his sound!) Warmer and jazzier. Joe pass, wes montgomery, pat methany, lenny breau, but I dont like semi-accoustics  :lol: .

Crawlers, perhaps?  Bluesy, warm vintage vibe but still powerful enough that you won't think your amp's broken.  :wink:
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2007, 11:46:58 PM »
check your pm MDV...
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2007, 11:34:36 AM »
If you want Kossoff, get the new PG set (which or course will do the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac days and Gary Moore), or for more drive, but in the same vein, get an Emerald/AIV Mule combination.  This was my frist BK set, and I told Tim I wanted the sound from Kossoff, Peter Green and the sound from Thin Lizzy's Still in Love with You.  The combination of the AV and AIV magnet gives the Peter Green tone when both pickups are on.
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