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« on: April 11, 2007, 11:31:09 PM »
My first thought was 'WOW this is a stunner. It's a right mix of Blackface, Marshall and Vox cosmetic. And it's black. And dark. And I think it's uber hot.

Second... it's heavy, but not TOO heavy.

Comes with TAD valves... two EL84s and 3 12AX7s/ECC83s. One of the 12s isn't badged. The others are actually high grade 7025. So I think as far as valves go, it's a 10.
Dunno why, I replaced the one closest to the power valves with a JJ ECC83S... I HOPE it's the PI valve hehe... I wasn't able to find which is which. I just took off the not badged 12AX. If I don't find much difference I'll try the JJ in the middle valve. The way I figure it, in clean, the middle valve is bypassed and in dirty, it comes in to add 2 gain stages. So with a JJ in the middle I'd keep the cleans I love and possibly boost up the dirt? Or maybe I'm twisted. I haven't tried it like this though.

First thing I did was to put everything on 5. And I kept it this way for a while. The amp sounds absolutely GORGEOUS. I always had this idea that EL84s are pretty thin sounding. No idea why. Maybe because they ARE thin :laugh2: But nooooo... this amp is VERY, very nice sounding.

Speaker is a Jensen Custom 10''. The seller of the amp also gave me a free Vox speaker which is darn nice.

I saw no faults in the Tolex.

The amp's reverb is NICE and not overcooked as it's often the case. So I put on a little bit... Though pretty much nothing comes up until around 4 or 5. I don't mind, it's a good reverb to my ears.

The amp also has a TONE control! It works instead of a presence. Basically if you play exclusively with a Tele or Strat bridge pup... you can tame it down. But I don't find the treble harsh at all. Though that could be the guitar, maple neck through with a Screaming Demon.

Mhmm ok just downloaded the manual and it appears I was right. The one closest to the OV is V3 and the PI. Laney even included a basic block diagram of the overall gain layout! It appears the effects loop is SS boosted but eh. I got nothing in it right now. It appears V1B is the drive triode though. V2 is just before the EQ (I thought it'd be one half before, one after).

I plug into the low output. Why? No idea. The notice said so. And that's about the first time I ever follow a notice hehe...The hi input is just marginally louder, which I don't need and that's all I noticed. That diagram implies a pad for the low input...Does this mean the natural sound of the amp comes through the hi input?

I'll get a Laney FS2 footwich (which I can ALSO use for my AOR. Woot!) and have the basic clean and drive sounds from it. Then use my route 66 for boosted cleans with a hint of breakdown, or to really get that edge with the drive channel.

Or of course use the CrunchBox on clean ^_^ Sounds excellent too!

I couldn't be happier with the amp. I don't notice less bass than I want, more like the opposite. That speaker seems quite nice.

What else can I mention... did I say it's a stunner yet? ;)



The ebay seller was VERY nice and delivered it to me this morning... While I was on the plane! He lived in Glasgow and accepted to deliver it but could only make it this morning. So I told my flatmates to reception it and everything went fine. That was very cool of him if you ask me, and he was great to deal with from the start.

I may get a AB/Y box and run both Laneys. So that I'd always have a nice clean sound WITH The drive sound of the tiny one. Or to better compare them simply enough. Right now though my old faithful AOR could disapear and I wouldn't notice. Hope I don't hurt its feelings, it served me well and will get some upgrades soon.

I'm a happy man!

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2007, 11:42:03 PM »
it's a nice amp, nice score!

i don't see how plugging into the high input would do any harm?

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2007, 07:27:16 AM »
I like my VC30-great tone for the cash-even if you get one at RRP (which I didn't  :D  ).  VC's are great amps in my view.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2007, 08:34:09 AM »
Sorry for the hijack - but speaking of Laney...

Has anyone tried any Laney Tube Fusion combos? There's one in my local shop. And a Peavey Valveking. Both of which I'm thinking about... Any good?
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2007, 08:35:56 AM »
Oh, and how much was the VC?
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2007, 12:07:24 PM »
Make sure you test the switching carefully, some models suffered from silent dropouts between footswitch press and switch.

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2007, 12:56:48 PM »
Quote from: Muzzzz
Sorry for the hijack - but speaking of Laney...

Has anyone tried any Laney Tube Fusion combos? There's one in my local shop. And a Peavey Valveking. Both of which I'm thinking about... Any good?


i have a TF400, 120 watts, 4 channels, seemed like the ultimate amp when i bought it.  thing is, the tones are pretty uninspiring.  the clean channel is crystal clean, but it's like plugging into a hi-fi.  the lead channel has outrageous amounts of gain, but once you get over the excitement of that, again it's a bit flat.  and a big problem is there's no master volume, every time you turn up you have to balance all the channels' seperate volumes.  although at louder volumes the sound seems better, i think the 15 watt valve matamp i just got is just as loud!

it's not a bad amp,abd it does seem like a lot of amp for the money, but i'd say no more than a step up from a practice amp.  i've never tried a Valve-King so i couldn't compare.

best thing to do is try them out side by side, although of course you never really get to know a piece of gear till you take it home and live with it for a while.

Good luck whatever you do, and if you buy one i hope you enjoy it.  don't take my opinions as gospel, they're just what i think.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2007, 01:19:13 PM »
Thanks for that, Blue.

Actually, I'm not interested in the lead channel, I always run my amp thru a Boss GT8 on the clean channel.

Basically, the problem I'm having is that through my SS, the distortions and leads all sound a little bit flat. I don't play ALL that much clean, but when I do, I'm really quite satisfied with the tone.

Also, I'm thinking about preamp valves instead of all-valve, because I'm worried that I'll have to pay too much for an all-valve amp that doesen't go to mush with gain - but I'm wondering - would preamp valve be any better for this? or should I go all valve?  :?

Blue - do you use external OD's? If so, do they sound good thru the clean channel?

Sorry for all the questions and confused rambles, it's becoming increasingly apparrent that I know shite all about valve amps... :oops:

Opinions and advice welcome.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2007, 03:13:56 PM »
hi muzzz, on the Laney TF amps, i've been told that the valve in the pre-amp is only active on the lead channel where it's used as an extra gain stage.  the clean and crunch channels are entirely solid state.  i have tried a couple of overdrives, but didn't think they sounded any better than the amp's own drive.

a friend used to use a digitech multi-fx through the clean channel of a peavey stereo chorus, which had a fairly similar sound to the laney.  he was able to get pretty decent sounds that way, although he played metal with plenty of effects.  a crunchy valve amp sound was not to be found.

as i said, the best judge is your own ears, there's no harm in trying out the amp.  you might really like it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2007, 09:31:17 PM »
i know on my engl, it sounds mushier with the poweramp not coming into things than with the volume up...

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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2007, 01:42:19 AM »
I really like the sound of that amp!

Best amp I've ever bought for the money is my Vox VR30R valve/hybrid amp for £100,

try finding one! lol
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2007, 08:32:30 AM »
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hi muzzz, on the Laney TF amps, i've been told that the valve in the pre-amp is only active on the lead channel where it's used as an extra gain stage. the clean and crunch channels are entirely solid state. i have tried a couple of overdrives, but didn't think they sounded any better than the amp's own drive.


Well that's a bit poo... I will try it though, my cr@p ears might like it. Has anyone tried the Valve King?
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2007, 12:31:28 PM »
I have.

Not too bad, nice for high gain but does sound very line 6 at times.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2007, 09:52:22 PM »
can anyone say how this compares with an AC15? (i assume it's been designed with a similar sound in mind)
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2007, 07:20:01 PM »
^ can't compare to an ac15, as i haven't tried them head to head, but compared to an ac30 (which sounds a bit different), the OD channel on the laney sounds a bit like the "normal" channel, while the vc15's clean (with bright engaged) is kinda halfway between the vox (again, normal channel) and fender cleans.

from what I remember. and probably with a severe lack of tweaking on my part, lol.