Bridge Ground Wire for LP Guitars

[cnotold]

hi all, i accidentally pulled bridge ground wire too hard while i was chaninging pots and it came off completly!!  :(

Does anyone know how to replace it???


p.s btw RS guitarworks's super volume pot is awesome!!!! if anyone considering changing electronics, i highly recommand!!!

[WezV]

It will be attached to one of the bushings for the bridge, which means you probably need to remove the bushings to find it and reinstall it.


Removing bushing sounds tricky but doesnt have to be.  If you unscrew the post completely
you can put a short bit of dowel in the hole and then screw the post back into the bushing.  As the post screws down it will hit the dowel and rather than screw in further it will lift the bushing up.

Then you need to feed the wire through again and make sure it touches the post - it doesnt have to be soldered or anything, just trapped against the post.  I had one that was difficult so i soldered it to a small spring that i left in the botton of the post hole

Sometimes finish can lift around the bushing so be carefull

[cnotold]

thanks for your reply, i will have fun rippin apart my guitar again this weekend =) in fact i would be much happier if i could take down to professional to sort it, but i am the unluckiest guy in whole planet, everytime i take my guitar down to professional, ive never been happy with their service.

Feline was one of the worst!! i've sent my guitar to feline to re-align machinehead (since it was badly installed by previous owner), it was still not straight, requested brand new miracle man pickup to be installed, after i found out that it was a second hand nailbomb after the inspection from tim. i mean wut's it all about???

is it common for you guys or is it just me??? are there any trust-worthy luthier that i can go for???

[FELINEGUITARS]

I'm sorry that the machine-head seemed to still be off-kilter to your eyes

As far as the pickup goes - it was not secondhand, but a new pickup that we had had to re-wax dip because it squealed under high gain conditions when we were fitting to one of our guitars. (we had discussed it with Tim at the time who said it was ok to do rather than return to him as he knows how we do our wax dip.) think we just took another pickup of the shelf for that guitar.

But somehow a Nailbomb had accidently been put back in a Miracle Man box, which I can only apologise for. Possibly happened after wax dipping the pickup - it got put back in the wrong box.
As none of the BKP pickups are labelled on the pickups themselves, it is potentially an easy mistake, although if I had suspected a mix up I would have done a DC reading and that would have revealed the mix up.

But i apologise that it was less than 100% OK.
We have done a lot of work for guys on here and for the most part it has always been top notch.
Just wanted to clarify things over the pickup situation......

[Kilby]

Though it's not my place to comment on what may or may not have transpired, I however I feel that this was not really an appropiate method of airing such a greviance, it was basically inappropiate and rude.

In the case of a tuner I have to comment I certainly know how hard it is to 100% rectify another persons instalation misadventures, sometimes you have to go for 95% right in those circumstances. For the rest of it, sometimes mistakes do occur, as do misunderstandings. Thats what conversations and EMail are there to help with fixing

Rob...

BTW I have never met jonathan (or even swapped PMs), and can honestly say I have no vested interests. I'm sorry that you have had problems but this wasn't the right method of dealing with the issue

[FELINEGUITARS]

This all took place 8 months ago ......

Young (cnotold) discussed with me that the sound wasn't what he had expected and after speaking to me sent the pickup back to Tim in case there was a fault with the pickup.

When Tim received the pickup back for inspection he checked and found out my mistaken identity with the pickup.:oops:
Tim rang me and discussed.
We ordered a new correct pickup (MM) and Tim sent it out to Young direct to fit back in his guitar, and returned the Nailbomb to me (in a correctly labelled box !!!! :oops: )

So Young did get the right pickup in the end!
I believe the fretwork we did was all ok
A rare slip-up on my part....but all sorted in the end

[cnotold]

i understand that mistakes can occur in a busy workshop but in a customer's point of view, it can be so frustrating. As you guys treasure your guitars, you pay hugh amount of money to get em' restored or get it fixed and you want the best service in return.

when requesting a new pickups to be installed from a tech, you wouldn't want a product has been fitted/tested in other guitars and also I have paid extra to get it fitted in his workshop (which should've been refunded?) even though i got the right pickup in the end, it wasn't a good experience.

aligning machine head can be tricky, hence the reason you send your guitar to tech to fix it? my machine head is spezel which requires a drilling. since it was badly installed previsouly, i believed the wrong holes will be filled with dowls and install machinheads correctly in order. if i have to live with '95%' of correctly aligned machineheads, this information should've informed before proceeding job, no?

I went for feline because of their good reputation in this forum, and believed the provided the best service, however in my case, which is a shame not being able to maintain a good relationship.

[ToneMonkey]

Never having had dealings with Feline other than a few posts, I'm not going to comment further.  One thing I will say about Feline though is that I was showing my missus pictures of various guitars in the adverts of Guitar Buyer and she really liked Felines.  However Feline, if you reading this, she did say that your advert needs to be respaced to go along with "The Law of Three"  :roll:  She knows about that sort of thing.

As for removing the insert, I have had them in the past where they were closed ends so Wez's method wouldn't work.  Firstly, it may be worth running a scapel around the post just to make sure that when it lifts, it doesn't take any finish with it.  I removed mine by finding a bolt that fitted in and tighteding it down so that there was aout 20mm between the insert and the bottome of the bolt head.  I placed a couple of magazines on the guitar and another bolt with a nut on the end.  Using this bolt as a fulcrum and a large adjustable spanner as a lever, I just pulled it out.  Be careful though as the motion isn't completely linear so once it starts coming stop levering and just pull it straight up.  This advice is worth exactly what you paid for it, so I'm not going to accept responsability should it go porridge shape  

[FELINEGUITARS]

i understand that mistakes can occur in a busy workshop but in a customer's point of view, it can be so frustrating.

when requesting a new pickups to be installed from a tech, you wouldn't want a product has been fitted/tested in other guitars and also I have paid extra to get it fitted in his workshop (which should've been refunded?) even though i got the right pickup in the end, it wasn't a good experience.

I went for feline because of their good reputation in this forum, and believed the provided the best service, however in my case, which is a shame not being able to maintain a good relationship.

Young - I agree with you !!

I apologise for the error . Mistakes happen, and on the rare occaisions where I get it wrong I do feel bad about it and I put stuff right.
But I do feel that you should be discussing this with me so that we can easily resolve it and both be happy (and still be friends), rather than posting it on an internet forum and creating concern and mistrust in other forum users with regards my business practices.

If you want to ring me - you have my number
I don't bite and i do take care and pride in what i do.

With respect to brand new pickups.

The pickups we sell are new- unless otherwise stated

If I discovered a minor fault in a new pickup, and sent it back to Tim
He would rectify the problem and send it back to me
Would that mean that I cant sell that pickup as new?
(Even though it was untouched by anyone other than the maker and the dealer.)

If it had been installed & lived on a guitar for any period of time it would be ex-demo.

If it had been sold to someone else and they had used it , returned it or part exchanged it - then that would be second hand

[WezV]

As for removing the insert, I have had them in the past where they were closed ends so Wez's method wouldn't work.  

Good point!  - been a while since i have had that problem.  The old hammer as a lever  is always a back up - just takes a bit more care to get right

[FELINEGUITARS]

It is a shame that you are so far away Young - I would happily fix this for you for free to make amends.

Lets see if i can at least supply some good advice
Wez and Tone Monkey  made good points
Having seen the guitar - I think that the earth wire comes from the tailpiece stud which is a schaller one (10mm in diameter)

Finding a way that pull directly up is preferable
There was a good thread about this some time back on this forum

Find it here
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6605&highlight=bushing+puller

Heres my advice from that thread

here's a good way

1)Take a big washer - about 1" across with a small enogh hole that the thread of the tailpiece stud just goes through

2)Take a piece of wood or mdf - flat about 12mm thick and drill a hole maybe 15mm or so through it (or just large enough that the bushing will pass through it unhindered)

3)Place the hole over the insert

4)Thread the stud through the washer, through the hole in the wood and into the bushing

5)Tighten up and gently keep tightening until the bushing starts to be pulled out of the body

The bushing will rise out of the body and can then be pulled out

Or use a second piece of wood to make it so that you can repeat the procedure and pull the bushing out with the stud

[cnotold]

thanks feline, i appriciate your help.