Author Topic: Signal chain quality (Read 14262 times)

maxingwell · « **on:** July 20, 2005, 04:01:26 PM »

Looking for a bit of advice or opinions here:

I have a pedal board with 6 boss pedals (soon to be 5). I have noticed a big difference in signal if I plug straight into my amp rather than go through the pedal board. This is not ideal though as I need effects.

What I was thinking was: would it be worthwhile getting a line selector (like the boss model) and putting 2 pedals in one loop and the other 3 in the other loop. This way my signal will only go through the line selector pedal when I'm not using any effects.

Thoughts / advice / opinions very much appreciated.....

rinse_master · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2005, 04:04:50 PM »

That sounds like it might work, or maybe putting some of them in an FX loop if you have one, that might help?

Ratrod · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2005, 04:25:45 PM »

Wich FX do actually NEED? A wah can be modified to true bypass. Compressors, delay/reverb pedals and such can be tone suckers.

HJM · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2005, 09:05:44 PM »

Don't bother with the boss, get a loooper box, or Keeley Looper.

And yes, do as Ratrod says!

:twisted:

maxingwell · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2005, 03:31:17 PM »

Thanks for the advice guys.
Not heard of the Keeley Looper before - I'll check it out.

I s'pose if it came down to it I only really need one DS-1 but the others just give a bit more depth the the songs with the band.
Plus my pedalboard case cost me £100 so I might as well use it!!

I think I'll end up putting the chorus and delay pedals in a loop and only go through them when I need them. The EQ and DS1 seemed OK when I was only using those 2.

big steve · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2005, 11:44:04 PM »

i would recommend sending the ds1 to keeley for modifications- he does amazing things to pedals - sure to reduce noise.

Tim · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2005, 09:43:01 AM »

don't go with the Boss Line selector, it's a real tone sucker............like HJM, I use Keely Loopers, they're cheaper and totally transparent 8)

maxingwell · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2005, 04:03:33 PM »

big steve - do you have a link / details of what Keeley does to DS-1's?

maxingwell · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2005, 04:29:38 PM »

Or I could stop being lazy and do a search myself!!
I like the look of the DS-1 and the tube screamers.

With the Keeley Looper do you know if you can have 2 effects loops to switch between AND bypass them both as well?

HJM · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2005, 08:02:05 PM »

Quote from: maxingwell

Or I could stop being lazy and do a search myself!!
I like the look of the DS-1 and the tube screamers.

With the Keeley Looper do you know if you can have 2 effects loops to switch between AND bypass them both as well?

check out Loooper www.loooper.com

rinse_master · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2005, 07:03:42 AM »

I have a looper a/b pedal, it is supposed to be for output, but you can run it backwards to select input instead, well built and it only needs a battery if you want the led's on, cool little box.

The website is pretty good, they make just about anything you could need...

Brow · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2005, 02:33:18 PM »

http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/index2.html is also a site that makes custom loopers and switchers in any combination you may need :)

Craig

maxingwell · « **Reply #12 on:** July 26, 2005, 04:14:15 PM »

Guy - thanks for your help.
Ill check these suggestions out - and let you know what I decide to go for.

(Its good to be on a forum where you can ask fairly basic questions without getting flamed or sarcastic comments so, again - thank you).

HJM · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2005, 06:16:13 PM »

we can do sarcasm if you want :P

Joe Dorcia · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2005, 08:15:13 PM »

I have always had a few pedals before my amp and even if they are true bipass, they can still sometimes take away some of the clarity of your notes because impedences and pedal circuitory (i dont no exactly how though). I checked out some new tubes for my amp and put a 12AX&M (the Groove Tubes Mullard Reissue) into V1. This brought back the clarity and high frequencies lost in pedal chains. It just added that extra kick back to my sound. Maybe try that.

Joe