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« Reply #420 on: September 21, 2007, 08:11:09 AM »
The spalt on that is awesome Wez! I didnt really like spalted wood before looking at this thread and now I seem to really like the look of it.

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« Reply #421 on: September 21, 2007, 08:26:03 AM »
damn!! - i want to discourage people from spalt - i hate working with it!!!!!  Although i do have another spalted guitar lined up for the end of this year and i am actually looking foward to that one....i guess its more of a love/hate relationship with me and spalt!!

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« Reply #422 on: September 21, 2007, 12:12:19 PM »
I put a recessed Kahler in my Ibanez bitsa.  It was set up originally for the Ibanez lo-pro but they are expensive and I picked up a Kahler flyer for $50 on eBay,  When I was looking at how to fit it to the Ibanez body it just seemed like recessing it would look best so that's what I did.  The string angle with the Warmoth neck worked out great.
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« Reply #423 on: September 21, 2007, 03:31:31 PM »
i will get a photo of this bridge from the side at some point - when you see it recessed it definately makes perfect sense, even if it meant i had to make an extra template :wink:

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« Reply #424 on: September 21, 2007, 04:17:03 PM »
ok, as discussed before kahlers work with the strings being attached to a cam and then going over saddles which nver move whilst playing so you can palm mute to your hearts content without going out of tune.  Problem is that the saddles need to be raised to a certain height so you dont loose all tension on them when using the trem - this is where a lot of people go wrong with kahlers because the bridge design lets you lower the saddles past the point where they will function correctly.  Why they cant just thicken the base plate under the saddles so the lowest position was a functional one is beyond me.

Here is mine from the side, the saddles are set at there lowest usuable point  to maintain a good break angle when using the trem and the whole unit is recessed into the body - its currently set so the string would touch the fretboard because thats the theoretical lowest point i will ever need


I could have gone about it different ways but you cant deny these bridges are bulky buggers.  here is what it would look like if i didnt recess it


On a smaller sized exlorer like this i think it looks a little daft.

the only compromise is that now the little allen key that lets me lock the trem is not accessible so i will need to add a small channel behing the bridge to solve that

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« Reply #425 on: September 22, 2007, 06:52:56 AM »
You are setting the spalted bolt on aside for me right?  :wink:
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« Reply #426 on: September 22, 2007, 07:14:06 AM »
to me, a floyd rose looks more industrial, and bulky

I think Kahlers look more self contained

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« Reply #427 on: September 22, 2007, 09:01:04 AM »
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You are setting the spalted bolt on aside for me right?  :wink:


sorry fella, someone has already laid dibs on it - they tend to go to the people that offer me money :P

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to me, a floyd rose looks more industrial, and bulky

I think Kahlers look more self contained


the kahlers are definately more self contained, that makes them much easier to route than a floyd,

at the end of the day floyds are always just floating from two pivots - i know its a strong design that works but it doesnt always feel like it is.  The kahler should be more resistant to my sloppy playing

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« Reply #428 on: September 22, 2007, 08:20:03 PM »
When are you appying the finish? :)
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« Reply #429 on: September 23, 2007, 12:18:21 AM »
still need to carve the heel , add some room for some controls/electrics, inlya the headstock  and finish sand the whole thing then it will go off to be sprayed - might be a while because i am expecting a couple back from the sprayer to put together

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« Reply #430 on: September 23, 2007, 06:44:26 PM »
are you getting the 'palm arm' for the Kahler?

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« Reply #431 on: September 23, 2007, 09:55:36 PM »
If i do get round  to ordering teh other locking nut i might get a palm arm as well - not really fussed at this stage but its worth considering.

Anyway, got this back from the sprayer today:



Brightly lit so not like its real color but look at the reflections from the flannel:



this is closer to the real life colour:



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« Reply #432 on: September 23, 2007, 10:13:19 PM »
Very nice!

Is the whole on the top by the bridge going to be visible with the bridge on?
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« Reply #433 on: September 23, 2007, 10:13:55 PM »
Veeeery nice :) That's how i'm going to do my neck-through; with capped body, but not covering the laminations. Quite the shiny finish on her :) Big fan of sapwood in the fretboard, nearly bought a few bits of cocobolo like that a few weeks ago, but decided against it; got enough fretboard wood already!

Looks like a really comfortable fan there- what bridge is going on it, individual saddles?
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« Reply #434 on: September 23, 2007, 10:21:17 PM »
Yeah, individual bridges mounted on a ziracote plate.  The earth wire hole is slightly larger than normal to accomodate a wire from each bridge.  The actually channel is normal size - just enlarged at surface so i can join 6 wires into 1.... it wont be visible at all!!


This thing is all about comfort, its just over 1 1/2" thick, fully contoured and weighs practically nothing at the moment.  Its only a 1" fan from 25" to 26" with the 7th fret parallel... I just wanted enough to tighten up the low e when down tuning.

the neck is all reclaimed mahogany.  the body wings  are mahogany, a thin bit of flamed maple and the quilted redwood on top.  I have the neck showing on the front because i got the redwood very cheap and it was never going to be good for anything other than a neckthrough