Curved frets?????

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found this on the metbb


looks quite funky


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so apparently vai is all into true temperament.

http://www.truetemperament.com/main.php?go=0&lan=1

check out these frets. last time i seen a wavy set of frets like that was about a half hour after some smelly hippy gave me a bag of horrible tasting mushrooms to eat in the parking lot of a grateful dead show. jerry garcia's guitar was breathing after that. then i saw jesus, only he didn't look like the pictures of him. he looked like a naked wilford brimley. and he wasn't nice like you'd think, he was irritable and kept telling me that in order to save my soul i needed to eat more quaker oats...

ANYHOO, anybody who's been playing guitar a long time knows that you can never intonate a guitar PERFECTLY. it's always just "close enough". and if you've ever been annoyed that your open E chord isn't perfect, you then tune your open G string to MAKE it perfect, only to discover that now the open D chord is horribly off. the buzz feiten tuning system claimed to fix this, but it wasn't truly a perfect fix. it was more like a work around that mostly kinda worked, but still had problems. (try playing a chord up high on the neck with open strings, NO GOOD.)

this thing apparently fixes the problem totally and makes your guitars intonation perfect all over the neck. but is it worth the cost? the look? if this truly works, will it catch on? will steve vai make it popular? or will we have to wait until korn starts using these necks before all the kidz think it's cool?

[LazyNinja]

Won't string bending be rather weird? I also hate the look.

I dont think it'll catch on commercially as it'll cost too much money and time to build guitars like that. Some custom builders might want to use the idea though.

[j_d_m_2006]

ouch, take a look at the frets on this strat:

http://www.truetemperament.com/images/media/anders256.wmv

[Philly Q]

Won't string bending be rather weird? I also hate the look.

You beat me to it.  

I can't see the point.  I know you can never get intonation perfect, but even if you could, then - from my own perspective - I 'd c--k it up with my ham-fisted technique.  The phrase "close enough for rock'n'roll" springs to mind.

or will we have to wait until korn starts using these necks before all the kidz think it's cool?

Are Korn still considered cool?  I thought they blew their cred when Davis got fat and stopped going on about how tortured his life is.

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Won't string bending be rather weird? I also hate the look.

You beat me to it.  

I can't see the point.  I know you can never get intonation perfect, but even if you could, then - from my own perspective - I 'd c--k it up with my ham-fisted technique.  The phrase "close enough for rock'n'roll" springs to mind.

or will we have to wait until korn starts using these necks before all the kidz think it's cool?

Are Korn still considered cool?  I thought they blew their cred when Davis got fat and stopped going on about how tortured his life is.

No i think its the black dahlia murder thats cool to kids now.

never even heard the band but all the little kiddys in leeds seem to be weating the bands tshirts

[FELINEGUITARS]

Eek!
That would be hard to do aa fretdress on!!

I think it's very interesting but feel that it wont catch on.
We have also gotten used to a century of music played on a regular guitar, so even stuff that is officially wrong sounds right to our ears through familiarity.

I know what you say about the Buzz Feiten System being better but still not 100%.

However - i do like the improvements that the Earvana system gives
https://www.earvana.com/

We import and supply or fit these and they make a big difference ands are enough for most players

[WezV]

I'm with feline on this.   Nut compensation is the most economical way forward, seems to be what a lot of the buzz feintin system relied on anyway,  I havnt personally gotten around to trying an earvana nut but  have done what a lot of custom builders do and i think prs is doing now.  We simply move the nut slightly closer to the first fret. which is a bit better than standard, but not quite as good as an earvana or fully compensated nut should be..  

those true-temperament necks are an interesting idea but all they really do is demonstrate how messed up and based on compromises our music system is.  The major problem with the system is that a guitar fitted with it will have to have a certain tuning, because any other tuning would sound severly wrong and i guess it would have to have a certain action and certain string gauge, because too high an action  or thicker strings would throw out all there calculations - - -  so no room for individual preferences either.

[Adam.M]

And they're warmoth necks... hmm.

If they had brought these out in the swinging 60's, i have a feeling it would've cought on, being all trippy and all that.

It makes me feel high just looking at them.

[Simon D]

I thought there was something wrong with my PC screen when that site opened up. Then I had to check if I had my glasses on! I really can't see that catching on too well - guitarists are, in my experience anyway, a reasonably conservative bunch, not given to big leaps, which is what would be required to get used to this system.

I think compensated nuts and a good setup are the way to go. Just out of interest, would the guitar repairers charge someone extra for a fretdress on one of those boards? I'd imagine it must be quite a bit more time consuming to dres frets like that compared to normal ones?

[Oli]

I don't buy the "doesn't affect bending" spiel... because it does. I guess they're trying to be the next Novax in doing something innovative.  This won't catch on however- if you decide to change tunings or string gauges, then you've got a nice load of cr@p that doesn't look good, and sounds bad!

[noodleplugerine]

I wanna see a guitar with that and the auto-tuning system - That would be hilarious.

[indysmith]

i want a real bashed up looking old tele with that neck and some BKPs. Everyone would think it was gonna suck, and be totally out of tune, and sound horrible, then i'd RIP on it! :twisted:

[plastercaster]

ouch, take a look at the frets on this strat:

http://www.truetemperament.com/images/media/anders256.wmv

Yeah, but thats one for "third intervals".
http://www.truetemperament.com/main.php?go=19&lan=1 (would someone who knows better theory than I explain that? it can't be the distance between E and G#, or 3 semitones can it? some in between note?)
the standard neck has actually had barely anything done to it - http://www.truetemperament.com/main.php?go=11&lan=1 - just a little tweak were the G goes.

[Kilby]

Hmm, I can just see a guitarist turning up for rehersals with one of those and getting kicked out because he sounds wrong when playing with the other band members

I wonder if they do a 12 string version  :roll:

[JJretroTONEGOD]

ouch, take a look at the frets on this strat:

http://www.truetemperament.com/images/media/anders256.wmv

Yeah, but thats one for "third intervals".
http://www.truetemperament.com/main.php?go=19&lan=1 (would someone who knows better theory than I explain that? it can't be the distance between E and G#, or 3 semitones can it? some in between note?)
the standard neck has actually had barely anything done to it - http://www.truetemperament.com/main.php?go=11&lan=1 - just a little tweak were the G goes.

lol I wonder who uses these guitars?