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AdamB

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« on: August 27, 2007, 08:06:44 PM »
Probably a silly question, but the higher it is, the higher output the pickup?

Just making sure :)

Thanks

Also, resonant peak?
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2007, 08:37:58 PM »
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Probably a silly question, but the higher it is, the higher output the pickup?

Not necessarily, but it can be used as a general guide, yes.

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Also, resonant peak?

Is this question what is resonant peak?

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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2007, 09:25:25 PM »
Thanks man

Just wondering about output because it seems to be the same for most PUs except the dimarzio site throws this theory right off!

Yes, i'd like to know what resonant peak is :)
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2007, 01:08:24 AM »
Anyone?
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2007, 02:18:36 AM »
From buildyourguitar.com

"If you know the resonant frequency and height of the resonant peak, you know about 90 percent of a pickup's transfer characteristics; these two parameters are the key to the "secret" of a pickup's sound (some other effects cannot be described using this model, but their influence is less important).

"What all this means is that overtones in the range around the resonant frequency are amplified, overtones above the resonant frequency are progressively reduced, and the fundamental vibration and the overtones far below the resonant frequency are reproduced without alteration."

How Resonance Affects Sound

"The resonant frequency of most available pickups in combination with normal guitar cables lies between 2,000 and 5,000 Hz. This is the range where the human ear has its highest sensitivity. A quick subjective correlation of frequency to sound is that at 2,000 Hz the sound is warm and mellow, at 3,000 Hz brilliant or present, at 4,000 Hz piercing, and at 5,000 Hz or more brittle and thin. The sound also depends on the height of the peak, of course. A high peak produces a powerful, characteristic sound; a low peak produces a weaker sound, especially with solid body guitars that have no acoustic body resonance. The height of the peak of most available pickups ranges between 1 and 4 (0 to 12 dB), it is dependent on the magnetic material in the coil, on the external resistive load , and on the metal case (without casing it is higher; many guitarists prefer this).

"The resonant frequency depends on both the inductance L (with most available pickups, between 1 and 10 Henries) and the capacitance C. C is the sum of the winding capacitance of the coil (usually about 80 - 200 pF) and the cable capacitance (about 300 - 1,000 pF). Since different guitar cables have different amounts of capacitance, it is clear that using different guitar cables with an unbuffered pickup will change the resonant frequency and hence the overall sound."

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2007, 04:18:45 AM »
On a related note concerning the last paragragh of the above post, a friend of mine from GT Central forum (frenchfries) found this concerning cables, it is a direct quote from Cesar Diaz (amp guru) who was Stevie Ray Vaughn's tech advisor on his "In Step" album..I thought it interesting..and have found it to be quite true in practice:
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When we were doing the In Step album with Stevie [Ray Vaughan] , I had an endorsement with Monster Cables. They would send me all of this free stuff and I was very excited because I could manage these things for a guy like Stevie, who really didn’t even know how to wash dishes. All he knew how to do was play the guitar, but God bless him for that, because he really did something with what he knew. Anyway, I took these cables we got to Stevie and he said, “I hate these things.” I asked him, “Why, man, they’re the best cables in the world?” He said, “They pass to much electricity.” Those were his exact words, and I’ll never forget it as long as I live. “They pass too much electricity.”

They were too efficient…

Yeah, so he sent me out to the local Radio Shack and told me to buy every gray coil cord they had – not the black ones, only the gray ones. And I thought, “Hhmm, this freakin’ hick from Dallas is telling me this?” I got them and ran them through my capacitance meter and found out that they added like almost .05 mfd to the signal chain. That made it sound solid – it was like having a tone control, and the brightness and harshness that the Marshalls had was eliminated. There isn’t a single picture of Hendrix… back then they already had high-end cables, but there isn’t a single picture of Hendrix where you see him playing with a straight cable. Why?


But don't go out and buy a bunch of "coily cords" if you can even find them, a low grade or very long cable will do the job just as well, I also remember that Santana used a straight cord even in his living room and they were never less than 20 ft in length.

One has to wonder.

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2007, 08:48:26 AM »
Wow!

Thanks for that guys!
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2007, 11:01:26 AM »
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Yeah, so he sent me out to the local Radio Shack and told me to buy every gray coil cord they had – not the black ones, only the gray ones.  

LOL, I have one of those grey Radio Shack curly cables and use it all the time at home.  I wish I could pretend it's because I noticed a tonal benefit, but it's simply because it doesn't get tangled or take up a lot of space.

By coincidence, I think Fender have just re-introduced curly cords (or Koil Kords) - there's a review in one of this month's guitar mags (Guitarist, I think).
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2007, 11:15:38 AM »
I have heard the members of the Shadows claim that curley leads are an integral part of their sound
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 07:15:07 PM »
Of got two cheapo curly cables, one grey and one black. There about 18 years old and still work!
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