Holy shitee, I just tried a Marshall Vintage Modern

[hunter]

Does anybody feel this amp would compare equally or more favourably to the ENGL Screamer (50W combo) for value for money, features and sound......i feel a

I had a Screamer for 2 years, and I tested a VM for about an hour recently (comparing to many other amps). I wouldn't wanna go back to the Screamer, as it didn't have very organic or dynamic tone. The VM does. However the VM is much simpler in terms of loops, ins/outs, channels and switching. So if you need a real clean channel etc, the VM might be the wrong amp, for any other reason the VM kills the Engl.

If you need a channel switcher, you could also consider a DSL50 or DSL100, great amps with lots of tone if you can turn them up a bit.

[dave_mc]

the other thing i'd say is that, assuming the vm combo reacts similarly to the head, if you can't turn it up to deafening volumes, the screamer would be the better choice, if you ask me.

as timi says, though, it really depends what you want it for. you'd really need to try it- judging from this thread alone, there are several people who absolutely love the vm, and several who weren't impressed at all- only way to know which you are is to try it...

[Gazz]

Ta for the comments!.

The amp will be for house use only - reviews seem to suggest that the ENGL has better cleans whilst of course the Marshall excels with dishing the dirt! The ENGL has more functionality and channel switching options but then again I have been previously hooked on Marshalls (the VS100 combo) and perhaps the all valve Marsahll VM is the 'amp of choice' ....presumably it performs well at low(ish) volumes too and will sound that much better than its solid-state brother regardless.

[Twinfan]

perhaps the all valve Marsahll VM is the 'amp of choice' ....presumably it performs well at low(ish) volumes too and will sound that much better than its solid-state brother regardless.

Hello McFly?  Anybody home?  ;)

As we've said, the VM isn't that good at low volumes and only appears to shine when cranked.  For home use only it's going to sound fizzy.  Very fizzy.

[Dakine]

well, i too would rather have a GH50L, cos IMO, it's a bit simpler to use (even though the VM aint a rocket station itself) i just like the texture of the sound better. but the VM is very good in its own right.

and no.. i dont think there is a 30+ W valve amp, that can pass off as a bedroom amp. valve amps need to be played LOUD!

Did'nt used to be but after London Powers 'power scaling' I think there def. is now.

Personally love the Fargen Mini-Plex II and Suhr Badger. Currently deciding which to get myself (yes I KNOW these are 18 watters but the likes of Fargen, Suhr, Reinhart, Mojave et all are now using power scaling/dampening tech. in larger wattage amps and sounding great).

[LazyNinja]

You can't use the volume pedal in the loop trick to get more volume for solos on the VM apparently. Something to bear in mind.

[dave_mc]

Hello McFly?  Anybody home?  ;)

As we've said, the VM isn't that good at low volumes and only appears to shine when cranked.  For home use only it's going to sound fizzy.  Very fizzy.

:lol:

+1

unless your house is actually the millennium dome or something.

[JJretroTONEGOD]

I think they are too expensive, for what you get. Although, they might be good for thrash, they may not be good for lounge jazz lol

[Davey]

i dont know.. both when i tried it in london and at the paul gilbert gig it sounded really decent to amazing

Just to point out, at the Gilbert gig it probably had loads of additional EQ from the desk on it, and bearing in mind all the micing and such, it'd probably sound way different if you were sat listening to it in a shop.

not when you're listening to stage volume ;)
front row baby!!

[JamesHealey]

Yea I tried the Vintage Modern with Adam a few times, and I did prefer the orange tiny terror but eventually decided to go for a Cornford Hurricane, it's far superior to the Vintage Modern.

Personally I was really disapointed with the Marshall VM, just sounded cheap and processed, had no dynamics or overtones just a really bad pre-amp buzz saw sound even when turned up pretty damn loud it just didn't do it for me at all.

I've tried it twice - loved it the first time and thought it was too fizzy the second time.  This was a low volumes though I must admit.

A bloke was checkng one out in my local music shop today and it sounded superb.  Very "modern JTM45 on steroids".

seems to be quite the common problem... a friend had exactly the same experience, infact i as there second time around and the Orange Tiny Terror sounded far better, haha!

But when i heard it at the Paul Gilbert gig, it was astonishing, i think it just needs to be cranked...