Author Topic: straplocks (Read 11988 times)

Will · « **Reply #30 on:** October 08, 2007, 10:09:21 PM »

thats all you need :)

bobthemerciful · « **Reply #31 on:** October 08, 2007, 11:07:54 PM »

Schallers every time for me. The Dunlops are an elegant design, but it only takes some kak to get in those tiny ball-bearings and one day they don't engage properly and you drop your pride and joy. As happened to a guy I saw a few years back who had a lovely Les Paul sunburst, which ended up with a nasty broken headstock. Upset me nearly as much as him!! In 23 years I've never had to worry about the schallers. I make sure the nut is tight on the strap every now and then and thats it. :D

Brow · « **Reply #32 on:** October 09, 2007, 12:25:42 AM »

I have the Schaller type 1s on most of my 'main' guitars.

My Gibson LP and Gordon Smith Graduate 60 (LP Clone) have Schallers and share a strap.

My Fender Strat and the 'BrowCaster' have the Schallers and share a strap (aswill my new Strat when I get it).

My Charvel has 1 of those Dimarzio straps on it where the strap bit un-clips and leaves the 2 bits permanantly screwed into the body (a cr@p explanation I know! :lol: ).

My Telecaster and MusicMaster have their own straps and I use the Dunlop 'Over The Strap' Plastic buttons shown earlier on those.

My Gretsch has screw on strap buttons, which are just screwed down tight over some cheap imitation leather strap that I had knocking around :)

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #33 on:** October 09, 2007, 12:35:47 AM »

Quote from: bobthemerciful

In 23 years I've never had to worry about the schallers. I make sure the nut is tight on the strap every now and then and thats it. :D

The fact you check the nut is why you dont have problems
I have seem my share of broken headstocks due to the nut coming off because players don't keep tabs on things like that.

With the Dunlops - I always tell players to give it a "wiggle" once they have put the strap onto their guitar

I stock both the Schaller and Dunlop systems.......

dave_mc · « **Reply #34 on:** October 09, 2007, 12:11:10 PM »

man i'd have killed for that schaller diagram tom drew about 3 months ago... was too embarassed to ask how they worked! :oops: :lol: Luckily I did manage to figure it out myself, only took about a week... :lol:

badgermark · « **Reply #35 on:** October 09, 2007, 01:31:10 PM »

I picked up some Schallers, such a cool piece of design, all makes sense when you can see them for real.

Gonna attempt an installation onto my tele. If they don't fit I'll cry.

Edit: Ahah! Victory is mine. Nice and solid. Bit rattely though.

Philly Q · « **Reply #36 on:** October 09, 2007, 01:37:28 PM »

On the subject of Schallers, has anyone got any top tips for making the correct-size holes in the strap?

I tried to get a 10mm hole-punch, but no-one seems to make them.

Kilby · « **Reply #37 on:** October 09, 2007, 06:26:58 PM »

Quote from: Philly Q

On the subject of Schallers, has anyone got any top tips for making the correct-size holes in the strap?

I tried to get a 10mm hole-punch, but no-one seems to make them.

I would suggest a circle cutter that you get in art shops, it's like a compass but use a small knife blade (though you will have to tape the end of the strap down to do the cutting).

In the subject of schallers, I would suggest using a locking washer (one of those ones with a crinkly inside edge) or even a rubber washer to help lock the shaller nut.

I wanted shallers for years but never botherd till I got my Ric and they come with Schallers factory fitted (and have since used them on my other guitars)

badgermark · « **Reply #38 on:** October 26, 2007, 08:18:33 PM »

The nut on my Schaller's keep coming loose. Now I check them often so no mishaps yet. What's the best straps to use with these bad boys? I use the Levys standard straps (the synthetic strap (polypropylene or nylon maybe) with the big leather ends) and the nuts are just on the threads.

I'm afraid I'll drop something again. Love the strap locks though.

Antag · « **Reply #39 on:** October 26, 2007, 08:25:58 PM »

Quote from: badgermark

The nut on my Schaller's keep coming loose. Now I check them often so no mishaps yet. What's the best straps to use with these bad boys? I use the Levys standard straps (the synthetic strap (polypropylene or nylon maybe) with the big leather ends) and the nuts are just on the threads.

I'm afraid I'll drop something again. Love the strap locks though.

I use Ernie Ball straps - the leather end is much thinner than the Levys (like, half the thickness) so you get get several turns of the nut.

IMO the important thing with the Schallers is to use the right tool for the job when attaching to the strap - not your fingertips, & not pliers, but a #13 spanner :) They never come loose if tightened properly.

Levys work well with the Dunlop system as the thickness of the strap end means that the clip sits flush with no room to move/rattle etc.

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #40 on:** October 26, 2007, 08:36:25 PM »

Quote from: Philly Q

On the subject of Schallers, has anyone got any top tips for making the correct-size holes in the strap?

I tried to get a 10mm hole-punch, but no-one seems to make them.

Try Turtles tool in Croydon or look on ebay

Or as you are near to me - pop in cos I have one
Worth having - makes a lot of difference

To keep the nut on the thread - try loctite threadlock - its a blue liquid that dries hard and stops nuts and bolts from shaking loose- great stuff

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #41 on:** October 26, 2007, 08:41:46 PM »

Quote from: _tom_

Quote from: badgermark
I'm tempted by the Schaller's, how do they work though? I hate the dunlop design, sticks way too far out and mine wobble a lot.

Well this is a pretty cr@p picture but this is the general idea of how mine work. You pull the thing up to raise the pin then slide it on and the pin goes down a hole in the strap button. The thing that you pull up is tensioned by a spring so it wont accidentally come off.

Oh and the attachment bolts to your strap through the usual hole.

Would you believe I see musicians who put the horseshoe round the wrong way so it doesn't cup the button and take the weight of the guitar!!
Kind of defeats the object of a good design

Same kind of players who benefit from the label on the bottom of a beer bottle that says open other end .

Muttley · « **Reply #42 on:** October 26, 2007, 10:26:40 PM »

Quote from: badgermark

Thanks Tom, you make me smile.

I shall think about it, I have no tools other than a screw driver and a soldering iron right now, so they have to be super easy to whap on a Mexican Fender.

I use the Schallers too. All you need is a screwdriver to fit them

indysmith · « **Reply #43 on:** November 04, 2007, 05:16:11 PM »

Quote from: FELINEGUITARS

Would you believe I see musicians who put the horseshoe round the wrong way so it doesn't cup the button and take the weight of the guitar!!
Kind of defeats the object of a good design

Same kind of players who benefit from the label on the bottom of a beer bottle that says open other end .

LOL - muppets. i got some schallers yesterday. I'm relatively pleased - super cool design - probably should have come with instructions though. The rattling is there, but doesn't really bother me. The nut has come loose in just a day though (it's on a big thick leather PRS strap.) I'll have to find me a proper no.13 spanner and some threadlock. that'll stop me from chipping my teeth aswell...

sgmypod · « **Reply #44 on:** November 04, 2007, 05:46:16 PM »

Am quite pleased with the dunlops that came on my Feline..work great...and don't let me drop the guitar