Gibson 500t-alike

[bucketshred]

Played a show last night with the new band (shameless plug www.myspace.com/burningwarship, it went down a storm! supported SPiT LIKE THIS, foxy bassist and great punky sound).  I was using a pretty minimalist set up, just my Gibson Explorer (stock) into my Vox Wah and HBE Big D (for extra smoothness on the solos), all in to my JCM800 (Gain on 10, Bass on 10, Mids and Highs on 7ish).

Now, the 500t in the Gibson sounded AWESOME last night - rang out beautifully on the chords, great note definition etc etc, it just needed to be a little hotter for certain rhythm parts.

Anyone got any ideas on what would have the same characteristics as what my sound had last night (clear, biting, ringing sound for rhythms, smooth focused almost ZW esque tone on solos).  I know that the Miracle Man is a tad too dark for this application and WarPigs are a little too tight - so, who has got the best insight...?

The winner gets a cookie!

Andy!

[Ratrod]

 I know that the Miracle Man is a tad too dark for this application and WarPigs are a little too tight - so, who has got the best insight...?

The winner gets a cookie!

Andy!

Don't you mean that the other way around? Miracle Man too tight and Warpig too dark?

Painkiller maybe?

[Philly Q]

I don't know if it has all the tonal characteristics you described, but spec-wise the Painkiller has to be the nearest equivalent.

[gwEm]

well, the closest to the 500T is definately the cold sweat, and I can say that with good certainty since 500T is rather similar to the Dirty Fingers, which the Cold Sweat is inspired by. The 500T has a classic Gibson sound to it, but with rather agressive treble. I'd definately suggest the cold sweat if you just want an alike pickup.

another pickup might suit you better though for the tone you want.

[blue]

supported SPiT LIKE THIS, foxy bassist and great punky sound).  

Spit Like This are cool!  what are they like live?

as to the pickup, Cold Sweat does seem similar, but i was always under the impression that Miracleman was the closest equivalent to the 500t?  i suppose your best bet is to phone up and ask the source himself!

[gwEm]

i can see where the 500T vs miracle man comparisions come from (neither pickup is exactly mid heavy). but i suppose the things i like about the 500T (its essential gibson-ness) are best shown in the cold sweat.

[Philly Q]

I guess you're right, I know the CS is along the same lines as the Dirty Fingers, but I was forgetting the 500T also has similar specs to the DF.

Which made me wonder - can anyone describe the essential differences between the CS and the PK :?:    They're both ceramic and about 14/15K but I know those specs don't tell the whole story.

[Ted]

supported SPiT LIKE THIS, foxy bassist and great punky sound).

Oh yeah their bassist is HOT.

[ericsabbath]

definately Painkiller

gibson 500t in a m. laghus custom guitar (soloist style): brazilian mahogany, set neck
gt-2.mp3

bk painkiller in an ibanez rg7321 with custom body (made by m. laghus too): brazilian mahogany, bolt on maple neck
gt-1.mp3

both were recorded with a rocktron piranha into a cr@ppy 10w solid state amp (6" speaker) and pc mic
you can notice that they sound pretty close, but the painkiller doesn't have that amount of mud

the miracle man is completely different from 500t
the mids are more compressed (in "spacing", not dynamics), the bass is tighter, the low mids have a really different and natural growl and it sounds 10x clearer
but they have similar output and both have that strong ceramic feel

[CJ]

the miracle man is completely different from 500t
the mids are more compressed (in "spacing", not dynamics), the bass is tighter, the low mids have a really different and natural growl and it sounds 10x clearer
but they have similar output and both have that strong ceramic feel

i swapped a 500T for a miracle man and i didn't notice that big of a difference. sure, sounds better, but i think they're incredibly similar.

[MDV]

Ceramic .

Warpig.

You KNOW its the way, the truth and the light  :twisted:

[ericsabbath]

the miracle man is completely different from 500t
the mids are more compressed (in "spacing", not dynamics), the bass is tighter, the low mids have a really different and natural growl and it sounds 10x clearer
but they have similar output and both have that strong ceramic feel

i swapped a 500T for a miracle man and i didn't notice that big of a difference. sure, sounds better, but i think they're incredibly similar.

i did it too, and they sounded a lot different to me  :P
miracle man has a bigger bass with more density, less center mids
the 500t spreads that crunchy mids everywhere and it's a lot noisier
no other pickup have that miracle man low mid grind
it's pretty unique
the solo tones are different too
the MM has that weird extreme clarity for shredding, that gives an active feel
the 500t on solos sounds more... uh.. i don't know the word in english... what's the word for "burning hot pain"?  :lol:
maybe the guitar you tried it didn't accentuate these characteristics that make the whole difference between them

[CJ]

the miracle man is completely different from 500t
the mids are more compressed (in "spacing", not dynamics), the bass is tighter, the low mids have a really different and natural growl and it sounds 10x clearer
but they have similar output and both have that strong ceramic feel

i swapped a 500T for a miracle man and i didn't notice that big of a difference. sure, sounds better, but i think they're incredibly similar.

i did it too, and they sounded a lot different to me  :P
miracle man has a bigger bass with more density, less center mids
the 500t spreads that crunchy mids everywhere and it's a lot noisier
no other pickup have that miracle man low mid grind
it's pretty unique
the solo tones are different too
the MM has that weird extreme clarity for shredding, that gives an active feel
the 500t on solos sounds more... uh.. i don't know the word in english... what's the word for "burning hot pain"?  :lol:
maybe the guitar you tried it didn't accentuate these characteristics that make the whole difference between them

thats what i'm thinking. i guess it depends on the guitar...