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« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2006, 09:22:08 PM »
I don't think so as across the age ranges here most everybody feels that there is a defiante lack if anything happening

I have always disliked the majority of music that I hear, but there has always been something I could appreciate (if not actually enjoy) but at the minute there dosn't appear to be very much at all.

Personallty I'm reduced to working backwards throgh time looking for bands I have missed, which considering the possibilitys offered by the internet its a little counter intutive to me.


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« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2006, 10:20:24 PM »
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yours and beatles' generation not liking a lot of modern music could be remeniscent of your parents not liking the new music in their time... maybe its just a thing that happens... i mean, what im trying to say is... your parents and their generation could have been saying exactly what your all saying now...

I think that's always the case with every generation.  My dad used to come in when Top of the Pops was on and say "what's this rubbish?" (he'd wait until the end of the song when Pan's People or Legs & Co were on though!  :wink: ).  As you get older you try to stay in touch with new music, but simply because you've been around a long time everything starts to sound like something you've heard before - it's hard for me to get excited about Oasis or Bloc Party or Trivium or the bloody Libertines because they just sound like recycled versions of things from 20+ years ago.

But, in (sort of) defence of new music, I think the things you like when you're 15-20 have more impact than things you get into when you're older.  It goes deeper somehow.  My musical tastes may have broadened, and I may lose interest in stuff I bought only a year or two ago, but I know I'll always love those old Purple, Sabbath, Rainbow, Rush, Scorpions and Robin Trower albums (mock me if you wish).  Even if new stuff is "as good" as those bands, it won't seem like it to me.  I'm the wrong age to be receptive to it.

I'm going on a bit, but finally, there'll never be another band that has an impact as big as the Beatles.  "Pop" (and rock) may be the music of the young, but Pop itself is middle-aged and flabby.  There's nothing revolutionary or innovative about it any more.  There are just too many bands in the world for any one to really stand out.  In 1962, the older generation had no comprehension at all of what was happening.  It was earth-shaking that young men grew their hair past their collars.  The record companies let artists do whatever they wanted because they simply didn't understand what they were up to.  That can never happen again - us oldies may not like what the kids are into, but it has no shock value because the music itself is much less revolutionary than it was 30 or 40 years ago.
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« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2006, 10:47:26 PM »
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I'm going on a bit, but finally, there'll never be another band that has an impact as big as the Beatles.  "Pop" (and rock) may be the music of the young, but Pop itself is middle-aged and flabby.  There's nothing revolutionary or innovative about it any more.  There are just too many bands in the world for any one to really stand out.  In 1962, the older generation had no comprehension at all of what was happening.  It was earth-shaking that young men grew their hair past their collars.  The record companies let artists do whatever they wanted because they simply didn't understand what they were up to.  That can never happen again - us oldies may not like what the kids are into, but it has no shock value because the music itself is much less revolutionary than it was 30 or 40 years ago.


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« Reply #63 on: November 11, 2006, 12:58:48 AM »
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:lol: or a cheap Ibanez Jem copy...

and anyway id rather live in a soft country than a place where people's 'security systems' require ammunition...


You are welcome to your country where the youth are better armed than Law Enforcement. Where Law Enforcement is so stifled by liberals they have little to no power. Where polls say the adult population in general is in fear of the youth. Where punishment is either non-exsistant to farcical.

I shitee you not ladies and gentlemen! It's fecked!

Rock/Metal comes from ANGST! What have the youth today got to have angst about? Benefits, crime with no punishment etc. Thats WHY it's gone all soft.

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How would Judas Priest write "Breakin the law" in this day and age???

Most good UK Heavy Metal came from the industrial heartlands and was usually a working class thing.
It appealed to young people who understood the angst and attitude of where it came from- even the escapism of sword and sorcery stuff.

Most of today's kids relate more to Mike Skinner (The streets), or artists that relate to sitting at home playing computer games, smoking drugs, stealing or joining gangs. Folks on this forum dont count as they have an interest in guitars and guitar based music.

But this country and its media do by and large ignore UK Heavy Metal/hard rock - almost as if it was dressed up in Union Jacks and represented unsavory things like the BNP.

Also so many UK bands are so hell bend on copying USA bands that they just look like pale imitations rather than something unique. Any bands that do their own thing stand out a mile - maybe like Muse.

This country has produced some class bands that have been discussed on this forum, that simply did not get the chance to break big - Thunder, Gun, Little Angels, Dirty Deeds, Kick,Jagged Edge/Skin, Panama, Hurricane Party/Roadstar (i rather like them).

Whether that is because we dont go out to see small bands anymore, that venues will only book tribute bands, or that the record industry simply isnt interested to promoting anything that isnt manufactured like a Boy band, I dont know.
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« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2006, 08:47:23 AM »
I can't help but notice that there is no new movement within either society or music for young people to get into; rock n roll, punk, the rave scene, they've all been and gone and generally just seem to have been regurgitated into some kind of banal, generic mess. I'm sure that there are still some truly innovative musicians out there but I can't see anything happening that will change the world again or even too many young people willing to do so!  :lol:
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« Reply #65 on: November 11, 2006, 03:51:14 PM »
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This country has produced some class bands that have been discussed on this forum, that simply did not get the chance to break big - Thunder, Gun, Little Angels, Dirty Deeds, Kick,Jagged Edge/Skin, Panama, Hurricane Party/Roadstar (i rather like them).


Roadstar as in this band - www.myspace.com/roadstarband ?

Apparently some guy who was in the year above me in 6th form plays guitar for em now.. I thought they were new and not very well known for some reason :lol:

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« Reply #66 on: November 11, 2006, 04:09:29 PM »
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:lol: or a cheap Ibanez Jem copy...

and anyway id rather live in a soft country than a place where people's 'security systems' require ammunition...


You are welcome to your country where the youth are better armed than Law Enforcement. Where Law Enforcement is so stifled by liberals they have little to no power. Where polls say the adult population in general is in fear of the youth. Where punishment is either non-exsistant to farcical.

I shitee you not ladies and gentlemen! It's fecked!

Rock/Metal comes from ANGST! What have the youth today got to have angst about? Benefits, crime with no punishment etc. Thats WHY it's gone all soft.

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How would Judas Priest write "Breakin the law" in this day and age???

Most good UK Heavy Metal came from the industrial heartlands and was usually a working class thing.
It appealed to young people who understood the angst and attitude of where it came from- even the escapism of sword and sorcery stuff.

Most of today's kids relate more to Mike Skinner (The streets), or artists that relate to sitting at home playing computer games, smoking drugs, stealing or joining gangs. Folks on this forum dont count as they have an interest in guitars and guitar based music.

But this country and its media do by and large ignore UK Heavy Metal/hard rock - almost as if it was dressed up in Union Jacks and represented unsavory things like the BNP.

Also so many UK bands are so hell bend on copying USA bands that they just look like pale imitations rather than something unique. Any bands that do their own thing stand out a mile - maybe like Muse.

This country has produced some class bands that have been discussed on this forum, that simply did not get the chance to break big - Thunder, Gun, Little Angels, Dirty Deeds, Kick,Jagged Edge/Skin, Panama, Hurricane Party/Roadstar (i rather like them).

Whether that is because we dont go out to see small bands anymore, that venues will only book tribute bands, or that the record industry simply isnt interested to promoting anything that isnt manufactured like a Boy band, I dont know.


Agree wholeheartedly.
When in my youth I went to small clubs/Uni's to see Thunder, Quireboys,Gun, Tokyo Blade/Shogun, Rogue Male etc., but thus far am not seeing the like anymore (again been Over Da Pond awhile).
In short, it saddens my soul :(
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« Reply #67 on: November 11, 2006, 04:52:11 PM »
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This country has produced some class bands that have been discussed on this forum, that simply did not get the chance to break big - Thunder, Gun, Little Angels, Dirty Deeds, Kick,Jagged Edge/Skin, Panama, Hurricane Party/Roadstar (i rather like them).


Roadstar as in this band - www.myspace.com/roadstarband ?

Apparently some guy who was in the year above me in 6th form plays guitar for em now.. I thought they were new and not very well known for some reason :lol:


Yeah - that's them
Really good band to see live
The songs are good and well crafted - many written or co-written by Laurie Mansworth - their manager who was in a few great 1980s bands like Airrace & More.

They use BKPs in a couple of their guitars as well
they did have a lineup change a while back with Kreepy(Robin) leaving and Sid (your old 6th form buddy?) joining.

They are a band that I have chatted to about using our guitars now and then and it would be great  for them to fly the flag for Brit built stuff too.

Worth checking out live as well !!


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« Reply #68 on: November 11, 2006, 04:55:55 PM »
It seems I've been lied to, as the guys names Andy, not Sid :P Then again I think Andy does use bareknuckles so maybe Sid is just some kinda stage name.. I dunno :lol:

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« Reply #69 on: November 11, 2006, 05:09:18 PM »
I think Belfast is finally starting to foster a bit of a metal scene, so there's our years of fear, opression, terror, unemployment etc. filtering into Music and the young. Most of the bands doing it are about my age (mid twenties), kinda the perfect age to form that attitude as for your whole life, you didn't know any different to the insanity. Finally, now, the curtain has lifted just a hair and  music is starting to flow. No-one's broke big yet, right enough, but I can think of a couple of bands on the verge...
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« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2006, 05:38:50 AM »
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personally i think that low output pickups are better because they show the guitar's character a lot more


They show the player's character more too.
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« Reply #71 on: November 12, 2006, 08:24:30 AM »
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yea your probably right. it most likely is a popularity thing. were you gonna by bare knuckles from gak? cause if you were the bare knuckle shop has way better prices. hope i was remotly helpfull lol


Nope I itend on getting them from the site because they are cheaper and I feel I owe it to Tim and the rest of you guys after all the help you guys and Tim have given to me  :wink:

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