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Title: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Twinfan on June 12, 2009, 11:33:08 AM
...I think I did a little sex wee in my pants   :o

http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/copy_of_Fender_Custom_Shop_62_Heavy_Relic_Strat__2199_.html

(http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/wob9.jpg)

(http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/wob12.jpg)

(http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/wob14.jpg)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: WezV on June 12, 2009, 11:42:09 AM
the body is excellent and i really like the torty plate. 

Seems like they havnt put as much attention into the neck though.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: dheim on June 12, 2009, 11:58:28 AM
really. REALLY. i think i'll never get all this relic thing. never.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: ToneMonkey on June 12, 2009, 12:02:00 PM
So is that a relic of a tobacco burst strat that's been painted over in white and then played a lot.  I don't mind relics, but I thik I'm more than capable of knackering up a guitar myself.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2009, 12:03:00 PM
There's a similar one at Guitar Village, although they call it a 1960 rather than '62.  I think the white-over-sunburst looks absolutely un-$%&#ing-believably awesome!

On the neck, I think they strip the finish but leave it clean so you can add your own dirt, burger grease, nose-pickings etc....

If it had a fat neck, I'd want that so badly.  But if it really is a '60 (or even '62) spec, the neck is probably pretty skinny.  I'd love to try one, but.... too scary.  :x

Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Will on June 12, 2009, 12:09:39 PM
Just think, instead of buying a new car...
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: AndyR on June 12, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
Weird... I really don't know where I stand on relics, I seem to be in the "no problem with them, but not for me" camp.

This one kind of embodies that:

I look at it and go "woo! pretty looking geetar..."

Then I hear it's a "relic" and I switch off (I do go and look at the price just to check it costs what I think it will - and it does). It's still pretty, but all lusting disappears immediately.

It looks like a lovely job. If one of you guys bought it and posted on here, I'd be all over it with "great looking guitar..." etc - but personally I feel nothing approaching desire once I know it's a relic...
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Twinfan on June 12, 2009, 12:59:04 PM
Just think, instead of buying a new car...

I haven't sold anything yet, but.....
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: mikeluke on June 12, 2009, 01:17:10 PM
Must say that I am in the "I just don't get it" camp too

If you want one that looks knackered - buy an old one!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: gwEm on June 12, 2009, 01:23:07 PM
not keen, sorry twinfan..

edit:
(on the other hand, if it plays and sounds amazing, i could grow to like it)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2009, 01:24:50 PM
Must say that I am in the "I just don't get it" camp too

If you want one that looks knackered - buy an old one!

I look at it and go "woo! pretty looking geetar..."

Then I hear it's a "relic" and I switch off (I do go and look at the price just to check it costs what I think it will - and it does). It's still pretty, but all lusting disappears immediately.

The thing is, none of us is ever going to be able to afford a real early-'60s Strat which looks like that *.

So anyone who likes/wants that vibe can only get it by buying a relic.  I'd like one because

(a) I think it looks great, I don't care whether it's 50 years old or 50 days old.
(b) it would be totally liberating to have a guitar I didn't care about scratching or denting!
(c) it has the look of an old guitar but none of the potential problems like worn-out parts.
(d) there'd be no "bad karma guilt" about changing parts, routing the body etc.

I know some people say they'd rather buy a new guitar and just play the hell out of it, but I could own a guitar 100 years and it would never get really beaten up.  It's just my nature to be paranoid about that first scratch or dent.  And when I do pick up a scratch, I don't leave it, I go and repair it.  :roll:

Oh god, I wish you hadn't started this thread, Dave.  :wink:



(* I know Phil King has some, but they're from the days you could get bargain old guitars!)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: horsehead on June 12, 2009, 01:29:19 PM
*drools*

Oh me oh my! I do declare I am in love
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: shobet on June 12, 2009, 01:32:16 PM
If it's like the sea foam green ltd. one they did it will be a very, very nice guitar.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Twinfan on June 12, 2009, 01:33:48 PM
Must say that I am in the "I just don't get it" camp too

If you want one that looks knackered - buy an old one!

Old ones are:

a) More expensive
b) A complete gamble, as you could be buying a partscaster or a fake

Relic guitars are like stone-washed denim jeans to me.  They feel nicer than stiff and scratchy dark blue ones  ;)

To the haters - it's just a cosmetic finish guys.  Get over it!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Afghan Dave on June 12, 2009, 01:53:21 PM


Relic guitars are like stone-washed denim jeans to me.  They feel nicer than stiff and scratchy dark blue ones  ;)


That's really the best way I've ever heard it put... Nice.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: CaptainDesslock on June 12, 2009, 02:00:29 PM
so someone basically took a shite on a strat and that's what you consider sex in your pants? I don't get it  :?:
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: noodleplugerine on June 12, 2009, 02:01:52 PM
That's pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Twinfan on June 12, 2009, 02:02:29 PM
so someone basically took a shitee on a strat and that's what you consider sex in your pants? I don't get it  :?:

I'm not asking you to get it.  I'm just saying that I do  :D

And cheers Afghan Dave, it's hard to explain why they're good.  They just have that 'comfy' feeling.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: CaptainDesslock on June 12, 2009, 02:20:18 PM
so someone basically took a shiteee on a strat and that's what you consider sex in your pants? I don't get it  :?:

I'm not asking you to get it.  I'm just saying that I do  :D

And cheers Afghan Dave, it's hard to explain why they're good.  They just have that 'comfy' feeling.

My apologies, that was needlessly rude of me  :( , however in retrospect I don't think you'll ever get a new car unless you can keep your GAS under control :)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: WezV on June 12, 2009, 02:28:47 PM
On the neck, I think they strip the finish but leave it clean so you can add your own dirt, burger grease, nose-pickings etc....

i think thats a bit of a lazy excuse for not getting it right - if thats the reason they might as well make a new guitar and let the customer add there own dents too!!

 and to me the bright wood on the neck always ruins the look. and distracts from the authentic relicing which is actually very good on this body

Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Twinfan on June 12, 2009, 02:44:46 PM
I agree Wez, it's odd that they've left it.  My relic Tele has a load of grime on the neck as if someone's just rebuilt the top end of an E-Type Jag, and then picked up the guitar to play non-stop until their hands are clean!!!!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2009, 02:45:12 PM
On the neck, I think they strip the finish but leave it clean so you can add your own dirt, burger grease, nose-pickings etc....

i think thats a bit of a lazy excuse for not getting it right - if thats the reason they might as well make a new guitar and let the customer add there own dents too!!

 and to me the bright wood on the neck always ruins the look. and distracts from the authentic relicing which is actually very good on this body


Yeah, I tend to agree.  Certainly that applies to the maple-necks in the Road Worn series - the clean maple divots on the fretboards look terrible.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Adam.M on June 12, 2009, 03:01:24 PM
I'm with wez on this one... the neck -always- ruins it for me.

I can see the appeal, I've tried some vintage guitars

They were utter shitee

A modern guitar with a vintage look is a much better option...


One thing that I'm not a fan of on this is that it looks like it was burst then sprayed white, I don't like that you can see that burst...

I'm sure that it gives it some 'story' i suppose, that someone at some point had resprayed it.

Another observation, how come he looks like he's holding the most delicate instrument in the world?! it's battered to hell man! hold it properly!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: WezV on June 12, 2009, 03:05:23 PM
One thing that I'm not a fan of on this is that it looks like it was burst then sprayed white, I don't like that you can see that burst...

I'm sure that it gives it some 'story' i suppose, that someone at some point had resprayed it.

quite a few of the original custom colours where done this way.  sometimes because of a flaw in the sunburst  or just factory resprays to fill a custom order.    Its kinda excepted as a completely authentic trait of custom colour fenders so its good to see then doing it on some relics
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 12, 2009, 04:17:43 PM
Awesome! But I don't like the burst under it, too...
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2009, 04:20:31 PM
One thing that I'm not a fan of on this is that it looks like it was burst then sprayed white, I don't like that you can see that burst...

I'm sure that it gives it some 'story' i suppose, that someone at some point had resprayed it.

quite a few of the original custom colours where done this way.  sometimes because of a flaw in the sunburst  or just factory resprays to fill a custom order.    Its kinda excepted as a completely authentic trait of custom colour fenders so its good to see then doing it on some relics

I think the white-over-burst finish is the absolute best thing about it!  :D
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Dmoney on June 12, 2009, 04:23:49 PM
i saw a REALLY nicely worn les paul standard in vintage & rare london this week. SO nice.
I don't mind relics like this but they aint for me. id be interested to know the process of relic'ing
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: AndyR on June 12, 2009, 04:26:26 PM
Relic guitars are like stone-washed denim jeans to me.  They feel nicer than stiff and scratchy dark blue ones  ;)

That's really the best way I've ever heard it put... Nice.

Actually, yeah, that works for me as well...

I have no problem with people wearing them... but I wouldn't be seen dead in them myself :D (or any denim for that matter :lol:)

I can't explain why I don't lust after the relics anymore - I did a year or so back, but I've played a few now, and that's kinda settled me into "not that interested at that price".

I'm with gwem though - if the "right one" fell in my hands and was a great player/etc... :roll:

But the thing is, all of these relic jobbies are well above my price range - so it would have to be truly stunning for me to put my hand in my pocket. The nearest to my price range that I've seen/touched were the roadworns, and as far as I was concerned, they just weren't £200 better (playability and general mojo, looks, etc) than the Fender Japan thing I chose instead...

And Philly, I must be lucky - I don't give too much of a monkeys about chips and dings. The first one is "Oh!?", I'll grant you - but that's usually in the first day or so :lol:

(I can be a bit of an "Yngwie" over guitar handling when it comes to getting the axes out to play/show them off... :oops:)

It's still a stunning looking example, though :D
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2009, 04:29:37 PM
i saw a REALLY nicely worn les paul standard in vintage & rare london this week. SO nice.

Was it the one in the window, with patches of wear on the top going right down to the wood?

It's quite unusual to see an LP with that kind of wear, it seems more Fenderish than Gibsonish for some reason!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Dmoney on June 12, 2009, 04:30:24 PM
yeah that one. i liked it.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2009, 04:42:42 PM
And Philly, I must be lucky - I don't give too much of a monkeys about chips and dings. The first one is "Oh!?", I'll grant you - but that's usually in the first day or so :lol:

(I can be a bit of an "Yngwie" over guitar handling when it comes to getting the axes out to play/show them off... :oops:)

I think you're like most people really!   I wish I didn't, but I can't help looking after my possessions.  It's not quite an obsessive-compulsive thing (at least I don't think it is....), but I'm the same with books, DVDs, CDs (I hate books with creased spines and cracks in CD boxes!).

I know what you mean about the cost, but I'd be a lot happier spending £2,000+ on a relic than on a pristine Custom Shop Strat, just for the sense of freedom.  I'd be afraid to take the latter out of the case!

I must admit that Yngwie video gave me the shudders.  Not just the way he had the guitars stacked on top of each other, but the horrible clonking noises they made as he chucked them back on the pile....  :x
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Twinfan on June 12, 2009, 04:50:18 PM
But the thing is, all of these relic jobbies are well above my price range - so it would have to be truly stunning for me to put my hand in my pocket. The nearest to my price range that I've seen/touched were the roadworns, and as far as I was concerned, they just weren't £200 better (playability and general mojo, looks, etc) than the Fender Japan thing I chose instead...

The Roadworns aren't in the same league as the Custom Shop stuff, especially the limited run ones...
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 12, 2009, 05:12:12 PM
And Philly, I must be lucky - I don't give too much of a monkeys about chips and dings. The first one is "Oh!?", I'll grant you - but that's usually in the first day or so :lol:

(I can be a bit of an "Yngwie" over guitar handling when it comes to getting the axes out to play/show them off... :oops:)

I think you're like most people really!   I wish I didn't, but I can't help looking after my possessions.  It's not quite an obsessive-compulsive thing (at least I don't think it is....), but I'm the same with books, DVDs, CDs (I hate books with creased spines and cracks in CD boxes!).

I know what you mean about the cost, but I'd be a lot happier spending £2,000+ on a relic than on a pristine Custom Shop Strat, just for the sense of freedom.  I'd be afraid to take the latter out of the case!

I must admit that Yngwie video gave me the shudders.  Not just the way he had the guitars stacked on top of each other, but the horrible clonking noises they made as he chucked them back on the pile....  :x

:lol:
I've problem when they're new... after a while it's ok
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: mecca777 on June 12, 2009, 05:24:37 PM
I know some people say they'd rather buy a new guitar and just play the hell out of it, but I could own a guitar 100 years and it would never get really beaten up.  It's just my nature to be paranoid about that first scratch or dent.  And when I do pick up a scratch, I don't leave it, I go and repair it.  :roll:

I just got this mental image of you buying a Relic, taking it home and refinishing it until it looks like a brand new American Standard... :)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: mikeluke on June 12, 2009, 05:33:00 PM
A mate of mine has come into some cash and is looking to buy an original 64 Strat....

Nice to have around 15K burning a hole in your pocket....
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: AndyR on June 12, 2009, 05:46:59 PM
I know some people say they'd rather buy a new guitar and just play the hell out of it, but I could own a guitar 100 years and it would never get really beaten up.  It's just my nature to be paranoid about that first scratch or dent.  And when I do pick up a scratch, I don't leave it, I go and repair it.  :roll:

I just got this mental image of you buying a Relic, taking it home and refinishing it until it looks like a brand new American Standard... :)

:lol:
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2009, 06:05:33 PM
I know some people say they'd rather buy a new guitar and just play the hell out of it, but I could own a guitar 100 years and it would never get really beaten up.  It's just my nature to be paranoid about that first scratch or dent.  And when I do pick up a scratch, I don't leave it, I go and repair it.  :roll:

I just got this mental image of you buying a Relic, taking it home and refinishing it until it looks like a brand new American Standard... :)

 :lol:

I did once buy a Hamer which was nowhere near a relic, but had a couple of dozen little dings, dents and scratches all over it.

And yes, I patched them all up.  :roll: :oops:
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2009, 06:07:05 PM
A mate of mine has come into some cash and is looking to buy an original 64 Strat....

Nice to have around 15K burning a hole in your pocket....

If he finds a "cheap" one, I could use a couple of grand if it's going spare.  It is my birthday next week...
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: AndyR on June 12, 2009, 06:07:53 PM
But the thing is, all of these relic jobbies are well above my price range - so it would have to be truly stunning for me to put my hand in my pocket. The nearest to my price range that I've seen/touched were the roadworns, and as far as I was concerned, they just weren't £200 better (playability and general mojo, looks, etc) than the Fender Japan thing I chose instead...

The Roadworns aren't in the same league as the Custom Shop stuff, especially the limited run ones...

Yeah I know :D... but then again the classier ones are a bit more than £200 more than the last guitar I bought :lol:

I'm kinda banjaxed by the amount of joy my mid-range trundlers are giving me - makes it hard for me to get worked up by something costing 2, 3, etc, times what mine did... No matter what it is.

I'm certainly not in the "I don't get relics" camp - I do get them, very much. I used to really want the beat-up strat look (I even beat up my own JV some years back), cos I thought that was an important part of the mojo I wanted. By theory, I am the market that these things are aimed at. But over the last year or so it seems I'm finding whatever it was that I was looking for in slightly healthier looking guitars nowadays!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: 38thBeatle on June 12, 2009, 06:44:27 PM
I can't make up my mind- if I look at it as a guitar then it looks good( I would rave about it no doubt if it was the real thing) then it makes a practical alternative for sure. I really cant make up my mind- that one does look well executed though.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Adam.M on June 12, 2009, 10:55:30 PM
One thing that I'm not a fan of on this is that it looks like it was burst then sprayed white, I don't like that you can see that burst...

I'm sure that it gives it some 'story' i suppose, that someone at some point had resprayed it.

quite a few of the original custom colours where done this way.  sometimes because of a flaw in the sunburst  or just factory resprays to fill a custom order.    Its kinda excepted as a completely authentic trait of custom colour fenders so its good to see then doing it on some relics

I don't know why I didn't recall that, cheers for reminding me!

Then that's a good thing historically. but if it were me, i wouldn't... maybe if it were black underneath I'd prefer it.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: hunter on June 13, 2009, 12:24:36 AM
only if it sounds like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIRriWTGqHs
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: dheim on June 13, 2009, 12:53:30 AM
only if it sounds like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIRriWTGqHs

oh my god, hunter, you've got no right to make me feel such a strat GAS! :)

what a player, damn...
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: WezV on June 13, 2009, 01:54:54 AM
One thing that I'm not a fan of on this is that it looks like it was burst then sprayed white, I don't like that you can see that burst...

I'm sure that it gives it some 'story' i suppose, that someone at some point had resprayed it.

quite a few of the original custom colours where done this way.  sometimes because of a flaw in the sunburst  or just factory resprays to fill a custom order.    Its kinda excepted as a completely authentic trait of custom colour fenders so its good to see then doing it on some relics

I don't know why I didn't recall that, cheers for reminding me!

Then that's a good thing historically. but if it were me, i wouldn't... maybe if it were black underneath I'd prefer it.

i think anyone who has sprayed a sun burst would understand why some sunbursts end up with custom colours over the top ;)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: juansolo on June 13, 2009, 08:00:40 AM
I like the stone washed jeans analogy. I have to say, I don't mind the closet classic stylie guitars where they just look old, but not f**ked like the relic jobs. Sort of like your new stone washed jeans vs a pair bought at Oxfam...

Natural relic-ing I have no problem with, it's like you've been wearing them, all the scars are yours. Artificial relic-age I find naffly fake.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Matt77 on June 13, 2009, 09:03:38 AM
I'm trying very hard to not buy a strat at the moment and this just isn't helping me at all :? :(
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ian Price on June 13, 2009, 09:27:01 AM
I REALLY like that strat - cheers Dave! I was watching the new guitarist DVD yesterday and the minute Mick Taylor started playing the 62 reissue I had strat GAS - especially for a white one. I calmed it down by playing my strat for a few hours and then read this thread. Strat GAS is now back again!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: hunter on June 13, 2009, 09:28:37 AM
I REALLY like that strat - cheers Dave! I was watching the new guitarist DVD yesterday and the minute Mick Taylor started playing the 62 reissue I had strat GAS - especially for a white one. I calmed it down by playing my strat for a few hours and then read this thread. Strat GAS is now back again!

In the same Magazine I was more looking at the Dave Murray model  :crazy2:
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Matt77 on June 13, 2009, 09:52:53 AM
The Dave Murray model looks a pretty good strat.
If I got one though, I'd have to do something about the 3 way switch. Seems an odd choice, not having at least a 5 way switch or coil taps
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ian Price on June 13, 2009, 10:06:16 AM
The Dave Murray model looks a pretty good strat.
If I got one though, I'd have to do something about the 3 way switch. Seems an odd choice, not having at least a 5 way switch or coil taps

I had exactly the same thought. I'm not qualified to argue with Dave Murray but it seems like a very odd choice! I also think uncovered bridge humbuckers look best on strats - not a fan of the neck HB (although neck HBs look great on teles!0
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: noodleplugerine on June 13, 2009, 11:17:16 AM
Much prefer the Adrian Smith one:

(http://www.jacksonguitars.com/images/products/products/2803051876_md.png)

(http://www.jacksonguitars.com/images/products/products/2803052876_md.png)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 13, 2009, 11:27:59 AM
Much prefer the Adrian Smith one

Oooh, I'm no superstrat fan as you all know, but those look pretty fantastic actually, especially the rosewood (or ebony?) board version.


(But to be super-pedantic.... why the 10-screw scratchplate?  You're part of the Fender group now, might as well follow convention.)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: hunter on June 13, 2009, 12:19:48 PM
Much prefer the Adrian Smith one

Oooh, I'm no superstrat fan as you all know, but those look pretty fantastic actually, especially the rosewood (or ebony?) board version.


(But to be super-pedantic.... why the 10-screw scratchplate?  You're part of the Fender group now, might as well follow convention.)

I think it was ebony in the review. Not sure I want another Floyd Guitar, now I'd like a non-locking super strat I think.

Counting the screws on scratch plates is pretty mental methinks Philly :O)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 13, 2009, 12:36:47 PM
Counting the screws on scratch plates is pretty mental methinks Philly :O)

I don't have to count them, I can tell at a glance after all these years.

Which is probably even more mental.  :|
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Will on June 13, 2009, 12:43:27 PM
I count eleven on the bottom one :?
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on June 13, 2009, 12:57:50 PM
I've got major strat GAS for this....

http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/copy_of_Fender_1962_Strat_Stripped_finish__5999.html

I know i shouldn't, but ooooooh!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 13, 2009, 01:00:36 PM
I count eleven on the bottom one :?

Yeah, it's just the top one.  Which makes me wonder if maybe those are photoshopped mock-ups rather than real pics.  They seem to do that quite often to get a "perfect" looking guitar.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: dheim on June 13, 2009, 02:43:38 PM
I've got major strat GAS for this....

http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/copy_of_Fender_1962_Strat_Stripped_finish__5999.html

I know i shouldn't, but ooooooh!

this is much better than the topic-starter. infact i like it a lot, and this is not a good thing.
remember you're not a strat fan, remember you're not a strat fan, remember...
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: dheim on June 13, 2009, 02:45:20 PM
I count eleven on the bottom one :?

Yeah, it's just the top one.  Which makes me wonder if maybe those are photoshopped mock-ups rather than real pics.  They seem to do that quite often to get a "perfect" looking guitar.

these are not mock-ups, just well shot photos...
i wish i had such a good lighting instead of being forced to shot with low natural light to achieve that effect...
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on June 13, 2009, 06:26:06 PM
I've got major strat GAS for this....

http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/copy_of_Fender_1962_Strat_Stripped_finish__5999.html

I know i shouldn't, but ooooooh!

this is much better than the topic-starter. infact i like it a lot, and this is not a good thing.
remember you're not a strat fan, remember you're not a strat fan, remember...

I know! I keep thinking that you could get a car for that price, that the finish stripping  looks rough, and it probably doesn't sound that good really. But...the pictures!!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ian Price on June 13, 2009, 06:50:36 PM
I actually prefer the topic starter strat!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 13, 2009, 08:15:10 PM
I've got major strat GAS for this....

http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/copy_of_Fender_1962_Strat_Stripped_finish__5999.html

I know i shouldn't, but ooooooh!
:o
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: HTH AMPS on June 14, 2009, 01:02:59 PM
it's been probably eight years since I've had a Strat and I don't miss them one bit - Teles are where its at with Fenders.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: AndyR on June 14, 2009, 02:03:29 PM
Just been catching up on developments on this thread...

and...

http://www.peachideas.com/acatalog/copy_of_Fender_1962_Strat_Stripped_finish__5999.html

Now that's what I'm talkin bout :D

Lookswise (and mojo), beats the original one posted hands down for me...

LOVE that one... that's a bit what my buggered JV looks like now (except that it took a lot of Winsor Newton acrylic glazes to generate that sort of colour/effect over the horrid matchstick stuff it's made of!)

... however, cute as it is, hands still in pockets :lol:

Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: gwEm on June 14, 2009, 03:04:02 PM
hands in still pockets too..

i think one of the reasons is i know how uninspiring even a strat which should be amazing can be (IMHO).. i'm lucky to have a truly great strat, and so i have absolutely zero GAS for getting another one.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Lew on June 14, 2009, 04:08:44 PM
A satin finished neck and rolled fingerboard makes my guitars feel 'worn in'. It does look good but I'm afraid I don't think much of relics.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Twinfan on June 14, 2009, 08:13:05 PM
That didn't last long - the Strat's sold!!!  :o

And no, it wasn't me who bought it...
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: d1dsj on June 14, 2009, 08:53:31 PM
I really like it but my strat GAS has also gone since I got my G&L Legacy. That's a trans blonde with tort plate too.... just needs a set of Irish Tours to make it all I need in a Strat.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Prawnik on June 16, 2009, 12:05:42 PM
Strats (either with vintage-style pickups or vintage-styled replacement pickups) are the best guitars.  :D Especially the late-'65 through mid-'71 kind.

Except when I play my old 335, Esquire, or Les Pauls. Then I am not 100% sure.  :?
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: sgmypod on June 16, 2009, 12:12:26 PM
don't own a strat or a tele..closest is my parker with Apaches on
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ian Price on June 16, 2009, 12:38:05 PM
I played my strat last night. It sounded week and I'm now not liking the neck on it (it's all maple with a vintage radius).

Basically I have been using my Les Paul and Tele pretty much all the time for the last few weeks and am now getting to like flatter radius necks with a slightly chunkier profile.  A bit of a surprise to me as I have always favoured thinner necks.

The strat (with Apaches) also sounds a little 2 dimensional compared to the Mules in the LP. Again this is a surprise to me as I have always been a died in the wool single coil strat person.

Hmmm, maybe I need to sell my strat and get myself a PRS (or a strat with a flatter radius and at least one humbucker, butnot more than 2!)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 16, 2009, 12:49:39 PM
Hmmm, maybe I need to sell my strat and get myself a PRS (or a strat with a flatter radius and at least one humbucker, butnot more than 2!)

Not tempted by a 3-humbucker Strat, Ian?

(Anyone remember the Spin Doctors?)

(http://www.timeelect.com/es-blue-7.jpg)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: sgmypod on June 16, 2009, 12:56:08 PM
yeah remember them..even bought the albums
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: AndyR on June 16, 2009, 01:05:53 PM
Hmmm, maybe I need to sell my strat and get myself a PRS (or a strat with a flatter radius and at least one humbucker, butnot more than 2!)

Nahh... I've had problems like this since getting into BKPs and acquiring bunches of different guitars. It's all in our heads and muscle memory.

Right now, you need to play the strat for a few days to get used to it again and find out what it does/did for you...

Then you need to play the "wotever" for a while, get used to that again...

etc...

Keep going round the guitars - don't try to play the "wrong sort" (for you) of music on each guitar, unless you're deliberately experimenting, that is. Use each tool for the job it's best at in your hands...

Go round that for a while, and you'll end up happy with all the different fingerboards, tones, etc
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: horsehead on June 16, 2009, 01:10:27 PM
or a strat with a flatter radius and at least one humbucker, butnot more than 2!)

I'll post pics of my bitsa later that are indeed what I think you'd like & would work for you
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ian Price on June 16, 2009, 02:03:36 PM
Go round that for a while, and you'll end up happy with all the different fingerboards, tones, etc

Will give it a go - I think maybe it's because I had the amp set nicely for the Mules and didn't adjust it for the Apaches. Another thing I may do is lock the strat away for a few weeks and see if I miss it.

I'll post pics of my bitsa later that are indeed what I think you'd like & would work for you

or maybe sell the strat and put together a bitsa!

Options, options, options!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: WezV on June 16, 2009, 02:15:00 PM
i quite liked your strat Ian.  Just give it a little rest for a while and i am sure you will like it for what it is again
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: nfe on June 16, 2009, 03:59:28 PM
To the haters - it's just a cosmetic finish guys.  Get over it!

This a million times. I really don't see any difference between a relic finish, a flame top or a Trussart Humvee component.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: horsehead on June 17, 2009, 06:45:42 AM
This is the bitsa that wez made the neck for. It's amazing mate, I've tried some humbuckered strats but they seem to not react quite as well. This one gives a lot of depth but with the single coil tone I love.

Go for it!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ian Price on June 17, 2009, 09:21:15 AM
Looks very nice - I think I saw it when first posted.

Played the strat last night and liked it a little more - I think what I will end up doing is getting a replacement neck with a flatter profile, bigger frets and a rosewood board. I might even change the pups from Apaches to Irish Tours and switch the pickguard from white to black but keep the white pup covers.

Part or all of this proposed change may be due to me watching SRV at the el mocambo DVD last night!!
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Snikch on June 29, 2009, 08:09:19 PM
separated at birth?   :lol:

http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2752.htm
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ian Price on June 29, 2009, 08:29:11 PM
Not bad but I think the relicing is not as good on this one. Looks a little more faked than the original thread starter.
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 29, 2009, 09:58:52 PM
Nice guitar horsehead, what is this neck made of? I think I saw it but can't remember...

I think I need to see a pic of your guitar Ian Price :P
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 29, 2009, 10:26:42 PM
separated at birth?   :lol:

http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2752.htm

Not bad but I think the relicing is not as good on this one. Looks a little more faked than the original thread starter.

Yeah, I agree, this one looks more like someone has splashed it with acid or something!

The one at Guitar Village was really nice but it's been sold now (thank God...)

http://www.guitar-village.co.uk/product-detail.asp?id=8009&catid=70&manid=33&quantity=1&product=Fender+Stratocaster+%28USA%29+Custom+Shop+1960+Heavy+Relic%2C+Vintage+White+over+3+Tone+Sunburst%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Tolex+Case+%26+COA (http://www.guitar-village.co.uk/product-detail.asp?id=8009&catid=70&manid=33&quantity=1&product=Fender+Stratocaster+%28USA%29+Custom+Shop+1960+Heavy+Relic%2C+Vintage+White+over+3+Tone+Sunburst%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Tolex+Case+%26+COA)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Ian Price on June 29, 2009, 10:30:51 PM
The one at Guitar Village was really nice but it's been sold now (thank God...)

I very, very nearly seriously considered it. It would have involved me selling the Esquire though (I know Dave would have been happy about that!)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: Philly Q on June 29, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
Yeah, if I hadn't been away the weekend before last I was going to go down there and check it out. 

Glad I didn't, it was silly money but the tempation might've been too great.  Then again, it might've been one of those instances where I pick a guitar up and know instantly that I don't like it (usually due to the neck shape).
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: WezV on June 29, 2009, 10:37:44 PM
Nice guitar horsehead, what is this neck made of? I think I saw it but can't remember...

its oiled sapelle and indian rosewood.  i did another one like it for a N2 around the same time.  i dont think horseheads had as much figure but still looked very nice

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/complete%20guitars/new1.jpg)
Title: Re: I don't really like Strats, but....
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 29, 2009, 10:40:04 PM
Awesome Wez!