Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: MBKorn on August 14, 2014, 08:13:41 PM
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Hi there. Im considering to load my third jackson (kv2) with one or two new PU. I have a Jackson Sl1 loaded with MM and a Jackson SL2H loaded with c-bomb and CS. I play metal, thrash and so on and tuning my guitar in C or B. Would the Juggernaut be my next PU or what is you input.
Thanks a lot, Michael
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Can it really be that no one have a input for me? ;)
The guitar have a maple neck-thru-body.
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Well, this is not my area of expertise, but the Juggernaut certainly fits very well in that family. Same world as the other two PUs, but they all do things differently.
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I've found the Juggs to be a bit hollow in the mids in every sample in internet. I guess it depends on the guitar, but it's a deal breaker for me.
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What about the Aftermath ... how would it fit in the guitar?
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I've found the Juggs to be a bit hollow in the mids in every sample in internet. I guess it depends on the guitar, but it's a deal breaker for me.
Don't worry, they're the opposite of hollow in the mids.
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What about the Aftermath ... how would it fit in the guitar?
Well the AM is great too. It is a very dry pickup with a surgical response. Very big on the center mids where the grind comes from, with a punchy but not super deep bottom end (which goes extremly well with dropped tunings), and a cutting agressive high end. However since the center mids are kinda the focus point of the voicing they do not go well in center mid heavy and LP scaled guitars imho. Both darker and dropped brighter guitars for example do very well though, especially if they have an extended scale.
You want an agressive, grinding, dry, surgical, up front, this-is-cyborg-Jason-Vorhees-on-cocain-and-he-is-pissed kinda tone the AM is a good option. The Juggernaut would be a bit more Michael Meyers in comparison. Perhaps. I am not sure where I am going with this. It is nearly Halloween though.
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If you are tuning that low and want to maintain excellent clarity I would definitely go for the Aftermath. The only time I have liked the AM is when I was tuned in C or lower. They rule in that department. Mean, tight, not to crisp and above all maintain the CLARITY! :evil: :evil:
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Damn, you guys are making me want to try an aftermath now lol
but for the OP, i have a C-pig in my jackson pro series king v (maple neck thru, alder wings, drop A tuning) and it rips. DEEP low end, but not muddy..chainsaw midrange grind, really aggressive, tame high end, nice bite to it. I love this pickup, but the only thing that i don't like about it that was hard to get used to (as I've also noticed with the painkiller) is that it feels "harder" to play…like you have to physically play/pick harder to get the sound/feels on it. not sure if that makes sense lol.
but it definitely made my king v roar
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When you mention the Aftermath i get a little worried, cause im not the most tight player on the planet :laugh:
Its a hard choise to make
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I wouldn't have imagined a Jackson KV2 (alder or basswood, neckthru) to be a particular fussy guitar for a high gain pickup. The Juggernaut is an excellent metal pickup, the only problem I see is that it is possibly not too different from the ceramic Nailbomb you already have.
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When you mention the Aftermath i get a little worried, cause im not the most tight player on the planet :laugh:
Its a hard choise to make
If anything that should make you want to get an AM, so you learn to play tighter and better. Its a great pick up :evil:
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When you mention the Aftermath i get a little worried, cause im not the most tight player on the planet :laugh:
Its a hard choise to make
If anything that should make you want to get an AM, so you learn to play tighter and better. Its a great pick up :evil:
It really is a thing with most BKPs and some, like the AM or RY especially, that they make you better players. They sound amazing and better than "the others" even if you play badly, like I do, but they right away let you know that if you step up your game they can be so much more. If tough love works it is this way. They let you know when you f*ck up, but they constantly let you know about the things you do right.
BKPs don´t punish you for being wrong as much as they let you know when you are right.
It takes a moment, but mother of ***** is it worth it.
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painkiller or holy diver
saerch for Antag's old posts
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So now these PU are in play:
Aftermath (think it will be to dry and honestly for me)
Juggernaut
Painkliller
Holy Diver
What is the bit different between these and will someof them fit the Jackson KV2 better than other?
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So now these PU are in play:
Aftermath (think it will be to dry and honestly for me)
Juggernaut
Painkliller
Holy Diver
What is the bit different between these and will someof them fit the Jackson KV2 better than other?
From experience, I hate the HD. Too weak and flubby. Painkiller=meh and way too ice picky to the ear drums. Juggernaut-amazing but not as clear as the AM. AM, rule in lower tunings. The clarity is off the charts. :evil:
If you decide to go with the AM and stop being afraid to become a better player technically, you will love them even more. When touched right, they come to life...ha thats what she said :cool:
PS: They are only dry in certain set-ups. You can easily fix it with Eq'ing the amp. Remember tone is subjective and most of the tone comes from your amp, speakers and believe it or not, your picks material!
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:evil: i must you sell it good :grin:
what is your sl2h loaded with?
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It's not that hard to becomes a better player, practice rhythms with a metronome and start slowly, paying attention to the quality of the sound you are getting.
I put in a vote for Juggerset. I LOVE these pickups, they're tight, responsive, percussive, great for rhythm, great for leads, amazing for cleans. They're great for a versatile guitarist who does many things but they don't 'drop' the ball on any one task either.
RE: 'Hollow mids'
They have a certain tonality to them which I describe as 'modern' which is audible in all the clips I have heard. They are not scooped but they do have a certain 'hollow' sound to them when distorted. But, the super thick and aggressive distortion they produce is only possible with an abundance of midrange. It's the pickup voicing that the user trysth is reacting to. Of course, some of that is due to amp, recording technique, and playing style. My experience has been that the tone 'in the room' is quite different but recorded, I get a somewhat similar result to what others have gotten.
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:evil: i must you sell it good :grin:
what is your sl2h loaded with?
Miracle man in the bridge and a cold sweat in the neck. They match great. I do want to try the juggs in it though..but the MM sounds so good in it already so i doubt ill switch. :evil: