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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: aidilomorello on July 05, 2015, 05:23:29 PM

Title: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: aidilomorello on July 05, 2015, 05:23:29 PM
Hi guys , I've been using alnico v nailbomb for most of my guitar I'm kinda in love the growly mids in the alnico nailbomb. I wonder is there any bareknuckle alternatives that  have growly mids and warm bass response
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: aidilomorello on July 05, 2015, 05:24:35 PM
I wanna try something different instead of buying another alnico nail bomb
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: darrenw5094 on July 05, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
Sounds like a Crawler maybe
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Lucas on July 05, 2015, 10:04:14 PM
Black Dog I would say is an option as well. I have Ceramic version of Nailbomb and with my setup the mids are strong as well but I wouldn`t call them 'growly'
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Kiichi on July 05, 2015, 10:17:08 PM
One could add the Stockholm to the discussion too. A P90 that is not entirely unsimilar to the Nailbomb. IIRC our own Agent Orange has both and I think he sais the Stockholm is rawer and less polite. Certainly roaring in a lovely way.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Telerocker on July 05, 2015, 11:00:08 PM
Hi guys , I've been using alnico v nailbomb for most of my guitar I'm kinda in love the growly mids in the alnico nailbomb. I wonder is there any bareknuckle alternatives that  have growly mids and warm bass response

100% Crawler.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Dave Sloven on July 06, 2015, 12:31:46 AM
The Stockholm is less middy than a Nailbomb in the same type of guitar.  I've had both in SGs and found the Nailbomb to be too much (it is fine in my Explorer).  The Stockholm has good strong throaty mids though and is certainly not polite, but I think that kicks in slightly higher in the mid range than the mids do in the A-Bomb.  The Stockholm as as much or more bass and low-mids than the A-Bomb, I know that for sure.  It's in the mid-mids where the A-Bomb has a big EQ hump.

I had the same first thought as other people: the Crawler.  I don't think it will be tight enough in the bottom end for you though if you are used to the A-Bomb. Also the Black Dog is one that comes to mind, but it is not as hot.

Stockholm is the closest in terms of output and aggression out of the other BKPs.  It has a punk edge to it like the A-Bomb, that's why I bought it.
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Post by: ericsabbath on July 06, 2015, 12:46:23 PM
holy diver is pretty warm and middy
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Post by: Serratus on July 06, 2015, 03:20:39 PM
My first thought is Black dog. I've just got a Stockholm and that is pretty strong in the growly mids too, but as it's a single coil is a bit of a different beast to a standard humbucker. Holy Diver is very similarly voiced to the Black dog but imho the higher output makes it a bit smoother and so maybe a touch less growly (still strong in mids though). I had a crawler which I found a bit lacking in character and mids, so I wouldn't suggest that, although that may have been more down to the guitar it was in, so other people's experiences might guide you better on that.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: fdesalvo on July 06, 2015, 04:43:19 PM
Tally me Crawler
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: aidilomorello on July 07, 2015, 05:06:30 AM
what about warpigs I saw some video demo  seems like it has a growly mids. what's you guys opinion on warpigs
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Dave Sloven on July 07, 2015, 05:15:25 AM
Well yeah the A-Pig at least has heaps of big throaty mids and a big bottom end.  They like a brighter guitar though.  Perfect in my SG Special.

People might be interested in this video of the Nailbomb set playing more bluesy stuff.  I like that it demonstrates the neck pickup sound a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86zOVOZUYvU
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Lucas on July 08, 2015, 12:06:53 AM
People might be interested in this video of the Nailbomb set playing more bluesy stuff.  I like that it demonstrates the neck pickup sound a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86zOVOZUYvU

just wondering what bridge option is presented here. My guess is Alnico as I`m trying to compare overall fell to my Ceramic Nailbomb.

By the way, Im quite surprised by neck humbucker here, it`s surprisingly dark-ish sounding without much bite.
Agent Orange, as far as I remember you`re familiar with neck Bomb, how can you compare it to your experience? 
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Dave Sloven on July 08, 2015, 12:25:34 AM
I think he's got the tone knob wound back some on the neck

Sounds like an A-Bomb in the bridge to me.

TBH I'm more familiar with the bridge than the neck.  I really don't use neck pickups much at all
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: BigB on July 09, 2015, 09:23:48 PM
Another (if late) vote for the crawlers here if you want something warmer / fatter / a bit smoother but with that huge low mids growl.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Lucas on July 09, 2015, 09:47:37 PM
I think he's got the tone knob wound back some on the neck

there`re NB demos with slightly different sound with more top end, more snap and certainly more articulation.
That`s why that demo that you have uploaded stroke me a bit with that warm and polite tone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hetxfRS3xM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2OxcFS3_QY

I know that the second one is metal oriented, but it blows my mind (tone wise as well) every time I listen to it.

Shame that there`s so little NB neck samples, looks like an interesting pickup.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Slartibartfarst42 on July 11, 2015, 06:55:47 AM
If you're happy with a tone that is warm, fat and growly but looser than the A-Bomb (that I find very tight indeed), then look at a Crawler. It's a very versatile pickup. If you want something tighter and less hot, look at the Black Dog.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Telerocker on July 12, 2015, 12:45:18 PM
Once more: go Crawler here.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Alex on July 12, 2015, 06:07:34 PM
The Black Dog has a lot of low, growly mids.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Dave Sloven on July 13, 2015, 01:02:41 AM
I think he's got the tone knob wound back some on the neck

there`re NB demos with slightly different sound with more top end, more snap and certainly more articulation.
That`s why that demo that you have uploaded stroke me a bit with that warm and polite tone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hetxfRS3xM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2OxcFS3_QY

I know that the second one is metal oriented, but it blows my mind (tone wise as well) every time I listen to it.

Shame that there`s so little NB neck samples, looks like an interesting pickup.

Thanks for the clips.  I liked the first one a lot.  The second one was nice too, but it seemed to me that it was all bridge
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Lucas on July 13, 2015, 08:18:08 AM
You`re more than welcome. Yes, the second one is the bridge one only.

Just wondering why NB neck is not that popular, there`s very little info either here or other places.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Dave Sloven on July 13, 2015, 10:16:59 AM
You`re more than welcome. Yes, the second one is the bridge one only.

Just wondering why NB neck is not that popular, there`s very little info either here or other places.

I think it's time that Tim or someone at BKP did a proper video for the Nailbomb set.  It would improve sales of the neck.  It's a good pickup but my playing doesn't do it justice.  I'm pretty much a rhythm player only, besides a few hammer-ons when I can be bothered, and most of the time I don't switch to the neck pickup.  I mainly use it if I am playing cleans.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Lucas on July 13, 2015, 08:09:57 PM
I think it's time that Tim or someone at BKP did a proper video for the Nailbomb set.  It would improve sales of the neck.  It's a good pickup but my playing doesn't do it justice.  I'm pretty much a rhythm player only, besides a few hammer-ons when I can be bothered, and most of the time I don't switch to the neck pickup.  I mainly use it if I am playing cleans.

great idea, it`s well known fact that bridge Nailbombs are one of the best sellers out of BKP range. I pressume bridge only, mainly because there`s not much info about the neck one. Good point.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: BigB on July 18, 2015, 12:46:50 PM
The ABomb neck is a great match for the bridge and a great pup on it's own. It's (obviously) less aggressive than the bridge and has a more vintagey / vocal character while keeping enough output and clarity to keep up with the bridge... For those who have experience with the RiffRaff set, there are quite some similarities in the way the neck sounds on it's own and the way it relates to the bridge.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Lucas on July 18, 2015, 05:44:49 PM
The ABomb neck is a great match for the bridge and a great pup on it's own. It's (obviously) less aggressive than the bridge and has a more vintagey / vocal character while keeping enough output and clarity to keep up with the bridge... For those who have experience with the RiffRaff set, there are quite some similarities in the way the neck sounds on it's own and the way it relates to the bridge.
Thanks, that`s really informative, cheers!
I read somewhere that apparently NB neck is underwound bridge model more or less. I only have an experience with Ceramic Nailbomb bridge and I wouldn`t call it a great lead pickup at all.
Actually leads is the last thing what I like about CBomb. It roars, screams, quite versatile, good cleans for ceramic pickup but not for leads in my opinion. You can obviously play some but it`s just ok.

How that aspect compares with neck version?
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: apanboll on July 24, 2015, 12:30:41 AM
What?? cBomb bridge no lead tone?

I've got exclusively cBombs in my 6 Caparison's and they rule in both rhythm and solo and I've gone through the bkp/lundgren/dimarzio/sd/emg/motor city pickups sortiment.

The clarity/dynamics/harmonics the cBomb brings to my guitars is unbelievable. For a high gain player I get petrucci/hetfield/vh sound and with volume control even play some blues/rock tones.
I often pair a neck with a reverse wound cold sweat and on my horus a dimarzio chopper.
 
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: Lucas on July 24, 2015, 08:56:16 PM
What?? cBomb bridge no lead tone?

I've got exclusively cBombs in my 6 Caparison's and they rule in both rhythm and solo and I've gone through the bkp/lundgren/dimarzio/sd/emg/motor city pickups sortiment.

The clarity/dynamics/harmonics the cBomb brings to my guitars is unbelievable. For a high gain player I get petrucci/hetfield/vh sound and with volume control even play some blues/rock tones.
I often pair a neck with a reverse wound cold sweat and on my horus a dimarzio chopper.
Well, I didnt say that CBomb cannot play leads. What I say was that leads are the last thing that I like about CBomb, it could be my taste, Im not arguing but I would not pick up CBomb as the first for playing leads.
Don`t get me wrong, its a great pickup, I really like it for rhythm (Both hi-gain and more classic overdriven tones), cleans are really good for ceramic pickup as well.

The only downsides of CBomb that I noticed over last 2 years of using it are:
-lead work
-not extremely precise
-note separation is not great either, under distortion once you play chord and some harmonic fill underneath, everything becomes a little blurry.

To sum up, if you`re looking for bridge pickup having great leads in mind or you`re playing modern metal, Bullet for my Valentine style type of thing (with loads of fills under distorted chords), I would not recommend CBomb.
Title: Re: Bareknuckle pickups with growly mids??
Post by: BigB on July 25, 2015, 11:49:23 AM
I only have an experience with Ceramic Nailbomb bridge and I wouldn`t call it a great lead pickup at all.

I only have experience with the ABomb - I'm not into ceramic pups - and it works great for leads as far as I'm concerned.