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noodleplugerine

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« on: October 25, 2007, 10:08:33 PM »
Basically, I've realised the last thing I need in terms of gear (before I start doubling my guitar collection) is some decent pedals, racks, etc.

First things I'm getting are:

BBE Sonic Maximizer
Morley Bad Horsie
BOSS SD1
Electro Harmonix Small Stone

Now, what I ask you, is there any pedals that you know, which can be got for not TOO expensive, ie, £50ish either new OR 2nd hand (ebay seems to be just amazing for cheap pedals) that you believe are either superb, or essential for any guitar setup.

I'm also looking for a good tuner which can be bought for a decent amount of money - preferably a rack one, and if they exist, a rack or stompbox metronome that can tick through the amp - that would be superb.

I'm also planning on buying a looping pedal so that I can loop chord progressions to play over - so if anyone knows a good looping pedal which isn't too expensive, I don't need a hundred stomps with a million overlaying ostinati, but something simple but effective.

Also, if there's a good cheap A/B pedal which can be bought - Please, by all means suggest.


That's a whole load of stuff, but I plan on really expanding my pedalboard this christmas - Thanks for any input!
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2007, 10:58:28 PM »
hmm, Personally wouldn't choose the Boss DS1  :?
I think would it not be worth putting a little bit more money into the OD box atleast?
Anything to take the simple dryness from the sound? reverb / short delay?

edit: Kurt Cobain ish kind of thing?

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2007, 11:03:37 PM »
I agree get an SD1 or a Bad Monkey instead of the DS1. Horrible, horrible pedal.

noodleplugerine

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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2007, 12:56:52 AM »
whoops, I meant SD1, and I don't need a reverb, my amp's one is fine - Only want the SD1 as a small boost if/when needed.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2007, 03:02:15 AM »
For a boost, I personally would sooner use an EQ or a transparent clean boost.

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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2007, 08:01:30 AM »
Boss CE-1 Chorus: Very rich simple to use chorus that is the only usable chorus with overdriven tone IMHO. Its a bit rare but they often pop up for little money.

Noise gate, also nice for loops

Stompbox tuner with power supply cord.

To max versatility when you allready have an SD-1 i would suggest to put a good vintage type distortion of your choise in, i have several which i use just to push an amp in a way the SD wont go. I like the Marshall shredmaster(oldie) alot because of the (primitive) amp modeling options, you can create different sounds with the ease of a stompbox switch. An equalizer would be another option in this respect.

Allthough i have an SD, i also like to use the OD-1 which is somewhat fuller sounding but has a very nice high edge which complement harmonics better in my setup.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2007, 08:14:55 AM »
See if you can pick up a used Keeley SD-1 instead of the standard Boss one. It's more expensive but you'll be glad you did.
 For the cheapest and best A/B switches in the UK at the moment, see http://www.redonionsolutions.co.uk/ . I've used them - truly excellent.
  For a cheap tuner, I use the Behringer TU-300. it works great, but needs to be kept out of the signal pathway with another A/B switch (£26) due to cr@p buffers. However, even good pedal tuners tend to be tone-suckers, and are best kept out of the signal pathway. I have no experience of rack tuners.
  Remember, that to be most effective and accurate, a tuner should be first in the signal pathway (ie no effect pedals between your guitar and the tuner). Tuners will work if not first, but they get a much clearer signal to work with if they are first.
  I also find a volume pedal very useful for violin-type swells. I would recommend the George Dennis GD20 or GD10 - they are the best out there, at that price range. You might struggle to pick one up used though.
  Good luck !

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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2007, 11:29:35 PM »
Quote from: LazyNinja
I agree get an SD1 or a Bad Monkey instead of the DS1. Horrible, horrible pedal.


I wouldn't say the DS-1 is horrible at all.  Stock, it is an alright pedal but a Keeley modified DS-1 Ultra is one of the best OD/Dist pedals out there!
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2007, 12:19:26 AM »
Quote from: noodleplugerine
I'm also looking for a good tuner which can be bought for a decent amount of money - preferably a rack one, and if they exist, a rack or stompbox metronome that can tick through the amp - that would be superb.


I've got a Korg DTR-2000 Rack tuner which I bought from SoundsLive a year or so ago:

http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Korg---DTR-2000~ID~1822.asp

You can see a pic of it in my rack in the Post Your Rig thread here: http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8686&start=231

I just wish the lights were red, it'd be like having K.I.T.T. in yer rack.  ;)

They also do a cheaper one called the DTR-1000.  Can't remember the difference off-hand.

I'm currently thinking about some form of OD or DS pedal to drive my pre-amp harder on occasion, but I'm not sure which yet.

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2007, 01:07:40 AM »
I didn't think the DS-1 was bad stock either, I actually thought it was better than the SD-1 if we're comparing them in their 'stock' forms.

I've modded both my SD-1 and DS-1 and they're much better now, it's just a process of tuning them in.  

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2007, 03:06:55 PM »
Any suggestions for a suitable gain and volume boost for under £70 2nd hand?

Want more sustain, bit more volume and a bit more gain.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2007, 03:13:20 PM »
For the tuner, Korg DT-10 is really good, I've had mine for a few years now. Was playing up at band practise last week which is a bit worrying, but its worked flawlessly up until now. Its more accurate than the Boss apparently, but doesnt have the daisy chain feature which the boss does.

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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2007, 08:17:48 AM »
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Any suggestions for a suitable gain and volume boost for under £70 2nd hand?

Want more sustain, bit more volume and a bit more gain.


CS-3 Compressor sustainer, if you boost the volume of your amp you will also boost the gain of your amp. Very cheap and simple. Alternative would be a good wah pedal which might even be a smart deal if you dont have one allready, in that case you will get the sustain from the overdrive you add trough the wah, a Morley would work nicely i think.

Really usefull stuff to have this, maybe even a good idea to buy both and experiment a bit, on the second hand market i think you can find both for under 70 pound bit it will be hard.

And before i forget, a DS-1 can be a superb booster if you want a more distortion type boost.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2007, 01:53:52 PM »
K, My new morley PVW just came through the door - Bought it to work as a volume pedal, and it works fine. It also has a wah on it, which has been reviewed quite badly it seems, but it's a perfectly nice sounding wah, albeit a bit weak when you pile the gain on.

Still planning to buy a bad horsie for my wah, but this is a nice addition for an impulse buy, the wah on it is perfectly useful at tastefull levels of gain - Anything upto Satch.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2007, 02:12:43 PM »
If you allready are playing with alot of distortion you should use a volume wah or compressor/sustainer they will boost your signal and will add that extra bit of drive and sustain naturally. Boosting a metal tone with an SD-1 will sound horrawlfull IMO.
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