Author Topic: "Bacchus" guitars? (Read 57043 times)

LazyNinja · « **Reply #120 on:** January 10, 2008, 07:54:14 PM »

I've cancelled the SG order. I decided it's not worth the wait.

Sam and Dave, the Signature LP at Musicground is now £550. When I said to them that it was £500 a couple of weeks ago I was told it was a different guitar that they already sold. What a load of bull. I've got photos of it ffs! It's that attitude of always trying to trick customers that puts me off buying guitars there.

sambo · « **Reply #121 on:** January 10, 2008, 08:08:49 PM »

^Cheeky so and so's!!!!!
:o

They're still advertising it on Ebay as well I think.

Good luck with what you decide to go for guitar-wise as well.

Twinfan · « **Reply #122 on:** January 10, 2008, 09:57:16 PM »

Music Ground - over priced (rumoured to be fake...) vintage amp selling bar stewards.

sambo · « **Reply #123 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:00:41 PM »

Dishonest sellers eh?.... The's close to home at the moment...

Philly Q · « **Reply #124 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:00:50 PM »

Quote from: Twinfan

Music Ground - over priced (rumoured to be fake...) vintage amp selling bar stewards.

Generally, or is this a specific example?

Quote from: sambo

Dishonest sellers eh?.... The's close to home at the moment...

And what's happened to you, Sam?

sambo · « **Reply #125 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:05:51 PM »

Phil, turns out my Burny might not be what the seller said it was. Advertised as a 1983 and could be 90s.

Most annoying thing is when I asked originally for authentication he said "you'll have to rely on my expertise" and I trusted him!

Philly Q · « **Reply #126 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:16:13 PM »

Is that from your recent research? I guess you've seen this article:

http://www.japanguitars.co.uk/burny%20info.html

Sorry to hear that :( . As you know, I had a less-than-perfect experience with that particular seller.

Twinfan · « **Reply #127 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:17:55 PM »

That's the same guy Phil bought his LP off that had less than secure inlays :roll: I always wondered about that guy. At the prices he charges they should be 100% perfect.

Phil - re. Music Ground it's a well known allegation. I've heard rumours about 'bitsa' vintage Marshalls, amp parts being aged on the roof, fake '59 Les Pauls............

sambo · « **Reply #128 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:18:37 PM »

Yeah I've seen that page.

I don't think we're the only ones either. I did a bit of digging on the Tokai registry forum and a couple of other people were a little miffed about his 'quality control' as it were, and it seems several people have hinted that his prices are really top-end.

:(

Philly Q · « **Reply #129 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:28:44 PM »

I knew all along that his prices were steep, but I was overcome with boyish enthusiasm at the time. Well, middle-aged-mannish enthusiasm.

As for Music Ground, that's disturbing. I've bought a couple of nice guitars from what's now their Denmark Street shop, but it might have been before it was Music Ground, come to think of it.

I think the vintage market in the UK is generally a bit dodgy. If it's old, it's expensive - never mind if it's obviously a refin or has non-original parts. They often quote dates that are a good 5 years out. Much worse if they're deliberately faking stuff.

sambo · « **Reply #130 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:32:08 PM »

Quote from: Philly Q

I knew all along that his prices were steep, but I was overcome with boyish enthusiasm at the time. Well, middle-aged-mannish enthusiasm.

Yeah same thing for me; too excited to see sense really. :oops:. Although I must confess I wasn't aware of how high his prices were at the time. I think I'm a lot better educated nowadays as to what the different models and brands are worth.

Twinfan · « **Reply #131 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:48:03 PM »

I enquired about the Signature Les Paul on eBay, and I asked if they could send it to Manchester for me to check out. They would if I paid a £250 deposit. No problem says I, I get my cash back if I don't like it? No, you get a credit note. Good job I asked huh?

I'm not going near them again.

sambo · « **Reply #132 on:** January 10, 2008, 10:54:16 PM »

Quote from: Twinfan

I enquired about the Signature Les Paul on eBay, and I asked if they could send it to Manchester for me to check out. They would if I paid a £250 deposit. No problem says I, I get my cash back if I don't like it? No, you get a credit note. Good job I asked huh?

I'm not going near them again.

:o :o Jesus...

(yeah the Japanguitars guy doesn't know the difference between Abalone and MOP either... :?)

LazyNinja · « **Reply #133 on:** January 10, 2008, 11:01:53 PM »

Quote from: Twinfan

I enquired about the Signature Les Paul on eBay, and I asked if they could send it to Manchester for me to check out. They would if I paid a £250 deposit. No problem says I, I get my cash back if I don't like it? No, you get a credit note. Good job I asked huh?

I'm not going near them again.

Sounds about right. When I bought a '77 JMP MkII (which turns out to be a '79), it developed a fault after a few days, even though they said it was fully serviced. I took it back but they would only give me store credit. I got my Laney VH100R with the money but man was I pissed off. I'm pretty sure that's illegal but I was clueless at the time. Thank god the Laney (which they strongly recommended against) sounds awesome even now.

Philly Q · « **Reply #134 on:** January 10, 2008, 11:06:17 PM »

I think giving credit is something many shops will try to do when you take something back for a refund. I'm no lawyer, but I think legally they're obliged to give a cash refund. Unfortunately it's hard to enforce without going to a lot of trouble.