Author Topic: Rebel Yell in a strat = great (updated with a clip now) (Read 3210 times)

_tom_ · « **on:** December 14, 2007, 06:10:23 PM »

Just put my Rebel Yell back in my strat and love the sound :D It has so many mids and sounds really fat, meaning the lead tones are awesome. Rhythm tones can sound a bit honky probably due to it having so much mids but I'm guessing it'll probably fit in fine in a band/mix. Anyway heres a photo, I'll do a clip tomorrow!

edit - just added a new clip. Mostly using the singlecoils in my strat but I used the rebel yell for the solo bit toward the end :)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=493678&songID=6078261

badgermark · « **Reply #1 on:** December 14, 2007, 06:59:15 PM »

Sexy, my HSS strat should be finished by tomorrow, I hope...

_tom_ · « **Reply #2 on:** December 14, 2007, 08:14:16 PM »

If I remember right thats the one that you're getting a Holy Diver for? Not sure if I'd want any more bass/thickness than this Rebel has, it'd be too much for me I think. Then again I am using 250k pots, would a 500k volume pot (not using a tone with the bridge pickup) make it sound a bit thinner?

This pickup sounds so much different to how it did in my Charvel - in that it was ok but a bit scooped sounding and fizzy, and in this its fat, middy and really crunchy - I remember people describing the RY as punchy and thats just what it is. Just goes to show that the guitar itself is more important than the pickup, obviously had a bad piece of basswood in the Charvel, and a good piece of ash in my strat :)

badgermark · « **Reply #3 on:** December 14, 2007, 08:18:39 PM »

Looks excellent, an unusual burst for sure. Mine will be an inverted version of yours, almost.

Yeah my strat will have a Holydiver in the bridge, I want something meaty. And a Slowhand in the neck. Tim recommended 500k pots, I don't know how it will sound though. Pickup was dead when in my guitar though, sent it off to Tim and he said it's working fine... Very odd.

_tom_ · « **Reply #4 on:** December 14, 2007, 08:26:22 PM »

Yeah I was thinking of getting some neck and middle slowhands as the BGs I have in right now sound too tame compared to the RY which is just a rock machine (sorry for the cheesiness of those last few words :lol: ). I'm home from uni now so can get that strat size p90 sent off sometime this week if you still want to give it a go.

As for the colour, I really like it as well :) Havent seen many other strats like it, apparently called sienna burst or something but Fenders sienna bursts look a bit different to this, less red I think.

Yamhammer · « **Reply #5 on:** December 14, 2007, 09:02:43 PM »

Don't even try to put 500K pots in your strat with the Rebel Yell pickup...

_tom_ · « **Reply #6 on:** December 14, 2007, 09:48:49 PM »

I might have a look for a 300k CTS, hopefully axesrus will sell them. I thought this pickup would be too trebly and thin in a strat but it really isnt.

Yamhammer · « **Reply #7 on:** December 14, 2007, 11:24:18 PM »

Quote from: _tom_

I might have a look for a 300k CTS, hopefully axesrus will sell them. I thought this pickup would be too trebly and thin in a strat but it really isnt.

It's great to hear the RY works well for your strat and I bet it sounds awesome :)

CTS 300K would be really fine.

Woogie · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2007, 11:49:39 PM »

Quote from: Yamhammer

Don't even try to put 500K pots in your strat with the Rebel Yell pickup...

The RY is quite trebly by nature, so I think you're doing a fine job by using a 250K pot instead of 500K.

500K would be definately too harsh, thin and trebly. I only want to give you some advice since I've had the Rebel Yells myself (in a LP). Even in the Les Paul 500K was a bit too trebly (especially for the bridge pickup), so I guess 500k would be far too much for a Strat.

You can always try 300K and honestly I think that would be a perfect compromise :D

I find 500k pots fine in my strat with holydiver bridge.

Yamhammer · « **Reply #9 on:** December 15, 2007, 10:29:28 AM »

Quote from: Woogie

I find 500k pots fine in my strat with holydiver bridge.

NICE:)

_tom_ · « **Reply #10 on:** December 15, 2007, 03:36:21 PM »

gahh this is so annoying. I cant seem to get a decent recorded tone today. It all sounds so scooped and fizzy :( Sounds pretty good in the room though, I think my mic'ing has just gone to cr@p :\ will try recording with my LP soon to see if its just the guitar.

edit - yep, sounds like my micing technique has gone shite :( Heres a clip comparing my LP and strat (LP first).

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WB6F26Y0

Strat sounds a bit louder but not much difference in tone really when you compare the 2! Sounds like theres way too much gain on the clip because of the fizz but its fine in the room :\

I still dont find this strat as nice to play as my LP, I think I've got so used to the angled bridge/neck on a Les Paul after it being my only guitar for about 3-4 years that anything like a strat with flat bridge/neck just feels weird and I cant pick properly on it, so once again I'm reconsidering myself even owning a strat, despite liking how it sounds :?

_tom_ · « **Reply #11 on:** December 16, 2007, 11:18:54 PM »

Well that was possibly the shortest "honeymoon" period I've ever had with guitar gear :lol: :oops: Playing loads today and it sounds good for leads, but the rhythm tones are more important to me and I'm allready getting a bit annoyed with its rhythm tone :lol: I'm actually just thinking about going back to SSS with my BG v60 pickups then getting an SD pickup booster or something to thicken things up.

kevincurtis · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2007, 12:19:19 PM »

Hi Tom - I know what you mean, things can get a bit too 'middly' and compressed which is ok for leads (although I still shy away personally), but really 'thins out' (in terms of richness) chord work. Might it help you to identify the types of sound you want and then what guitars/pickup options would work? Now I have my LP I am considering what I want form my 2 Strats to get the tonal pallet I would like...if you can get away without doing any rhythm chord work on the Strat (as its covered elsewhere) but would really make use of the lead sound then keep the Humbucker... or I guess you might try parallel wiring to give a more single coil sound?

Soundclip sounded good - I liked the feel you had going...If I may be so bold as to critique it a tad - change the drum reverb to a room setting, so you get more ambient 'snap' on it. I would also pan the main rhythm part over to the left, especially when lead comes in to give it some space to 'breath' in. Sounding good though fella :)

_tom_ · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2007, 01:18:56 PM »

I always find that I seem to over-reverb things for most peoples tastes, I just like the way it sounds for some reason :lol: Really need to stop doing that.

I have a problem with using the guitar just for lead work - I like my guitars to be able to do good leads and rhythms, not just one or the other - you cant just switch guitars halfway through a song for a solo, except when you're recording! Was thinking about just getting another Mule for this guitar as I know roughly how its likely to sound, just like my LP but brighter I'm guessing. I'm not a fan of having guitars with radically different humbucker tones for some reason, I like not having to change the settings too much when changing guitars.

kevincurtis · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2007, 01:45:52 PM »

Quote from: _tom_

I always find that I seem to over-reverb things for most peoples tastes, I just like the way it sounds for some reason :lol: Really need to stop doing that.

Trust me..try it, give it a few listens :) the problem with reverb is that it sounds fantastic in isolation but if youve got a 2s reverb tail on a snare drum (for instance), that is basically white noise in the background for half a bar, hence used on a lot of slow ballad type thingies where not a lot happens in that 2 seconds. This will allow the reverb on the guitar room so that will sound better :)

I know its a pain, but have you tried putting the mule into the strat? my strat is actually a lot darker than my LP, so always worth testing if you can...