You really need to get some professional soundclips

[duffman18]

I promote Bare Knuckle pickups everywhere I go.  Every time I've tried them  I swear they're the best pickups in the world.

However, some people are unwilling to try Bare Knuckles because you don't have sound clips.  Someone on another forum was saying how they'd rather have Seymour Duncan's because they have an extensive amount of sound clips.  He said that if you had the same then he'd try your pickups out.  He can't be the only person who thinks like this.

If you're not aware, seymourduncan.com has sound clips of pickups in each position, played both dirty and clean.  Also, it's just the guitar playing, with no backing track.  No offense to some of the people who provide sound clips, but it's really annoying if you just want to hear the sound of the pickups and you have bass and drums in the background.

But yeah, I really reccomend you get some professional sounding soundclips for each of your pickups.  You may be already working on this, so if you are then I'm sorry.

[Ratrod]

Actually, I was hoping that someone would post a clip of a live band performance so you can hear how the pickup stands out in a live situation.

I'm not too fond of the SD soundclips. They're too short to give a good view. They also use the same amp, settings and riff for all the pickups. Some pickups are ment to be played through a Marshall or other high gain amp while some are ment to be played through a Vox or Fender. Same goes for styles.

Just my opinion.

I do prefer the clips on this forum that are played with a decent tube amp, though.

[big steve]

i think HJM would be nearing "professional" level....


i like the soundclips system here at BKP. they have that DIY, grassroots, punkrock philisophy vibe  :D

[steve]

All the clips on the SD website to my ears sound the same and are really short and dont really help. I also think the BK player's room clips show how good the BK pickups are,they may not have all been recorded at a professional studio but tonally they are very strong examples.Steve

[chrisola]

i think the soundclip idea on here is better than some random guy sitting in a room playing the same riff on the same amp etc etc.

The soundclips show what each pickup sounds like in the playing style it was 'designed' for, and also the variety of clips show how versatile the pickups are.

You cant get much more professional than clips like ones Steve does, or the official BKP ones by Tim + HJM or the metal clips Twilight Odysessy (a pro musician with a good band + records out there), or indeed ones by the band Jag Panzer!!!

Its not really 'annoying' as the guitar is usually well up front in mix aswell!! (how can you NOT hear the 'guitars tone' on Steves cold sweat clips or on Tim ripping through Ozzy tracks???? You MUST be deaf)

Yeah theres some rough clips, but who cares! On the whole they are infitely more insightful than a 20 second clip of a guy hitting a couple of chords 8)

Different strokes for different folks... id rather base my decisions on listening to John & Bob playing around with there new BKPs in the 'real world' than a short clip of 'dirty\clean' chords :)

[Johnny Mac]

i think the soundclip idea on here is better than some random guy sitting in a room playing the same riff on the same amp etc etc.

The soundclips show what each pickup sounds like in the playing style it was 'designed' for, and also the variety of clips show how versatile the pickups are.

You cant get much more professional than clips like ones Steve does, or the official BKP ones by Tim + HJM or the metal clips Twilight Odysessy (a pro musician with a good band + records out there), or indeed ones by the band Jag Panzer!!!

Its not really 'annoying' as the guitar is usually well up front in mix aswell!! (how can you NOT hear the 'guitars tone' on Steves cold sweat clips or on Tim ripping through Ozzy tracks???? You MUST be deaf)

Yeah theres some rough clips, but who cares! On the whole they are infitely more insightful than a 20 second clip of a guy hitting a couple of chords 8)

Different strokes for different folks... id rather base my decisions on listening to John & Bob playing around with there new BKPs in the 'real world' than a short clip of 'dirty\clean' chords :)

Here! Here! And the much waving of ballot papers!

[duffman18]

Just remember though, that there are people that have SAID they'll buy Seymour Duncan's over Bare Knuckle pickups just because of the soundclips, so it doesn't matter if YOU like the sound clips, because you already own BKP.  

This is an example of what someone said:

"fact: i'm only voting warpig so there will finally be somebody with a set so i can hear what they really sound like. i could care less what he gets, i'm just curious about these bareknuckle pickups because i've never actually heard a clip of somebody playing on them.

those $%&#ers need to put some seymour duncan style sound clips on thier web site. I'm interested in checking them out, but not if i can't listen to them."

From:  http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9253070#post9253070

[Peterku]

"fact: i'm only voting warpig so there will finally be somebody with a set so i can hear what they really sound like. i could care less what he gets, i'm just curious about these bareknuckle pickups because i've never actually heard a clip of somebody playing on them.

those $%&#ers need to put some seymour duncan style sound clips on thier web site. I'm interested in checking them out, but not if i can't listen to them."

That f*cker was too lazy to sign up to this forum. His problem would've been solved.

[steve]

Fair comment, but its not until you actually own a set of BKP and play them through your own set up will you realise they are a cut above everything else,no soundclip anywhere can replicate that. When i got my first BKP there where no clips at all, it was just the word on the street from other players that made me check them out.Im glad i did.Cheers,Steve

[38thBeatle]

I agree with Steve above. Lets face it, most of us are keen "hobbyists" (sadly) and the clips are by real people using stuff we can all get hold of if we haven't already got it. Duffman's point was a valid one except that the SD soundclips did  sound rather "samey" to me after a while and when i was toying with the idea of getting some, I'd narrowed it down to 3 or 4 models. With BKP I read the description and sought advice and got what i wanted. If someone is going to base their purchase purely on the basis of one maker having a sterile soundclip then more fool them.

[chrisola]

Just remember though, that there are people that have SAID they'll buy Seymour Duncan's over Bare Knuckle pickups just because of the soundclips, so it doesn't matter if YOU like the sound clips, because you already own BKP.

i dont yet own a BKP actually, but it was listening to soundclips on here that prompted me to actually order one for a new guitar i'm getting made at the moment (another 4 weeks before i hear a bkp through my amp!).... thats INSTEAD of getting a Dimarzio Air Norton set....

Theres no official Warpig clips i agree, a major major oversight!!

The point i'm making is, the clips on here give you a fairly decent idea of how the products actually sound when used to play music, with backing etc, which is what we'll be doing with the damn things :lol:

Basic a/b tone clips dont really tell you as much as a guy playing with backing and doing a whole song, or doing different styles... do they?

Yeah, so some models arent quite covered yet, but this is a relatively new company with ALOT to offer us and in time there will be even more clips posted up, SD has been going since before someone 1st thought itd be a good idea to wear spandex in public :lol:

Maybe Tim\ol could link from the product info pages to the decent clips on the players section forum posts for each pickup that has one?? 8)


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[Sekhmet]

Just remember though, that there are people that have SAID they'll buy Seymour Duncan's over Bare Knuckle pickups

all i can say is their loss, once you've had a bare knuckle you never go back, if they wish to have tacky thin sounding pickups because they don't like sound clips from the average joe just like themselves/to lazy to do a tiny bit of research/don't have the b*lls to go out and purchase a kick ass pick up then fine, just please don't polute our ear space with your "tone".

I got my first bare knuckle just because seth stongly advised me it over a duncan, and you know what, he was damn right  :P

Personally i think the sound clips on here are brilliant, there's alot more emontion in them, if you think about it, at bare knuckle you've got someone whos just got a brand new pick up they love, and there gonna want to showcase its abilitys to the fullest, were as, if you've got some guy/lass churning out the same clip over and over again, its gonna get pretty dull and boring for the person and thus have an effect on the playing.

[_tom_]

Just remember though, that there are people that have SAID they'll buy Seymour Duncan's over Bare Knuckle pickups

all i can say is their loss, once you've had a bare knuckle you never go back, if they wish to have tacky thin sounding pickups because they don't like sound clips from the average joe just like themselves/to lazy to do a tiny bit of research/don't have the b*lls to go out and purchase a kick ass pick up then fine, just please don't polute our ear space with your "tone".

I got my first bare knuckle just because seth stongly advised me it over a duncan, and you know what, he was damn right  :P

Personally i think the sound clips on here are brilliant, there's alot more emontion in them, if you think about it, at bare knuckle you've got someone whos just got a brand new pick up they love, and there gonna want to showcase its abilitys to the fullest, were as, if you've got some guy/lass churning out the same clip over and over again, its gonna get pretty dull and boring for the person and thus have an effect on the playing.

damn straight brutha  :lol: ! I think these soundclips on this forum are great really, I prefer "homemade" clips to ones that couldve had no end of EQ'ing etc by the big companies, these ones seem more "true" to me or something..

[Underground_Player]

Delete this if you want Ol.



There's nothing stopping Tim putting up more pro soundclips; I reckon there's none for the Warpig 'cos this model is probably selling really well. Someone looking for a Warpig type pickup knows what they want and its quite obvious from the specs and the name that this model will provide that.

Although I'd agree that the various soundclips may not give the best impression of tone due to everyone having different fingers and gear, I'll say again that BKP isn't exactly doing badly sales-wise at the moment (more speculation I know) so a better long-term tactic is to allow players to send in clips which gives this forum, and therefore the company, a pretty down to earth image. Because the clips are entertaining it attracts people to the forum, and therefore on to the pickups.

'Nuff said.

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

What you have to realise is that we are a very small company as opposed to a multi million dollar company like Seymour Duncan.
Telling us to get sound clips done by professional musicians is all well and good, but everything costs money.
You can’t please every one, we've had people say they don’t trust sound clips because you never know how much processing has been done to the clip.
We are in the middle of a product page overhaul, including clips.
People can always go to a local stockist; most of them have a demo guitar with our pickups in to try out.