Pickups for CS Jackson

[Brown tone]

sorry for the misunderstanding, but finland is the promised land of bad humor and worse food, atleast that's what the italians say! See raikkonen and you'll know what i mean by bad humor. We have the second most difficuld language in the world and it's f* cold here and sun is out for few months in a year, the looong days of night. C'mon i wasn't *that* idiot.

(not rude, right?)

[Brown tone]

and this is how we speak english

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jNuKimIv7XI

(i agree, *rude*)

[WezV]

the harmonic node where the string is moving less would produce a reduced signal like you suggest

The guitar string vibrates with a single standing wave so that the biggest movement is in the middle(12th fret). The harmonics are like vibrations within string and the "phase cancellation" happens in the 24th postion to the odd numbers(basically to the third since above fifth every harmonic decay during the attack). Therefore the harmonics are less picked by the string because 1. they are much weaker when compared to the string vibration(main reason) and 2. the odd harmonics are cancelled.

My first post was oversimplified as is this and is actually a bit wrong, but serves the purpose.

(I'm still not trying to be rude!!!!!!!)

your still missing the point that the harmonic nodes change position wherever you play on the fretboard... so even if your idea of having massive phase cancellation at the 24th fret is correct (and it is) you need to understand that only counts when playing an open note..  to get that same 'phase cancellation' as part of your sound you would need a pickup that was permanantly 2 octaves up from your fretted note... and you need a pickup with a focal point that only focuses on the string very close to that node.. i am sure if someone invents a really thin pickup that moves as you play we could get the 'phase cancellation' you talk about.. interesting idea but not practical



i aint going to claim to know everything about string vibration but i know enough to see when the traditional guitar shop mythology is flawed... the whole idea of having a pickup at the 24th fret because its a harmonic node is flawed

play a note at the 1st fret and that 24th fret harmonic node is now over the 25th position
play a note at the 2nd fret and the harmonic node is over the 26th position
play a note at the 3rd fret and the harmonic node is over the 27th position

etc.. etc.... pretty soon your big wide humbucker is no longer seeing that 24th fret harmonic node at all


anyway.  the point is you want a neck humbucker you can riff with.  I find the BKP's do work for this even though some pickups can be a bit muddy.  I like my miracle man set for this

[octavio_amzer]

If you insist on riffing with the neck pickup... then logic says that you need the Painkiller Neck.

why?

because it is the only Ceramic Neck humbucker of the high output category that BK offer. So in theory it would be very TIGHT and focused.

but your best bet ALWAYS is to talk with Tim.

Just tell him what kind of guitar it will be in (woods), that you want to use the neck pickup for your riffing and give him some band examples.

It would also help if you give him some details of the sound you like:

1) focused, tight, loose, versatil
2) trebly, midless, alot of high mids, low mids, low end
3) articulate, saturated, cleans up well, compressed, don't care about cleans

or you can also try the "sound clip" or "read alot of threads" methods.

[MDV]

+1 for talk to tim.

Never gone wrong taking tims advice

HAVE gone wrong ignoring it and getting what I had in mind rather than the suggestion he gave based on the sound I wanted.

Lesson: Tim knows his pickups. Ask him and listen carefully.

[Brown tone]

i took your advice and asked Tim. He recommended warpig or miracle man for the neck!

I've got suggestions for the painkiller (4 other people have suggested Tim did not) or miracle man(suggested by tim and one other guy) and the warpig(suggested only by tim)...

I tried to find clips, but none of them is made with neck pickups. I guess i *really* am representing a minority of players liking the über thick tones produced with neck pickups.

EDIT: Tim narrowed down the selection for only mm so it's probably my best bet.