Author Topic: RebelYell / MiracleMan / Marshall / 80s krautrock (Read 5684 times)

hunter · « **on:** February 15, 2008, 08:48:07 PM »

Okidoki, warming up

Here is an ole Scorps tune.

Rhythm guitar is RebelYell bridge in PRS SE Singlecut through Marshall 2266
1st solo guitar is same plus Fulltone OCD in LowPeak setting
2nd solo guitar is Epiphone LP with MM bridge, OCD in HighPeak setting

samoth2 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2008, 09:42:06 PM »

Well, what can you say..

Absolutely smoking like everything else you put up

Now I need to try a Vintage Modern too when I need an amp :P

hunter · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2008, 09:47:24 PM »

Quote from: samoth2

Well, what can you say..

Absolutely smoking like everything else you put up

Now I need to try a Vintage Modern too when I need an amp :P

When you do, make sure you use the right cab (Greenback cab or correct Vintage Modern Cab). I tried the 2466 a few months back on a Vintage30 cab and it sounded rather bad.

Also recommend the 50W version unless you play in a REALLY loud band.

Twinfan · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:05:12 PM »

Nice clip Hunter, as always!

Is it me or do your guitars sound "thinner" than normal? That could be the Vintage Modern? Sounds like there's LOADS of treble and it's losing some fullness???

hunter · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:16:13 PM »

Quote from: Twinfan

Nice clip Hunter, as always!

Is it me or do your guitars sound "thinner" than normal? That could be the Vintage Modern? Sounds like there's LOADS of treble and it's losing some fullness???

That's well possible. First, I haven't touched the EQ of the Marshall yet, only played with the two gains so far, so maybe I should dial in some bass, mids or dial out some presence. Was too busy playing/recording LOL

Also I think the VM needs to be turned up a bit to get phat.

And then it's the thing about a Marshall, that it sounds rather open and maybe a bit thinner than a Bogner or Budda I suppose?

Am liking it a lot right now, just something different and it's cutting through so well.

opprobrium_9 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2008, 12:22:35 AM »

yeah, even from the first riff i could tell the guitars were a little thin, but as per usual one of the best "tone masters", as it were, on the forums.

Henk · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2008, 11:57:10 AM »

Quote from: hunter

When you do, make sure you use the right cab (Greenback cab or correct Vintage Modern Cab). I tried the 2466 a few months back on a Vintage30 cab and it sounded rather bad.

Later post....

And then it's the thing about a Marshall, that it sounds rather open and maybe a bit thinner than a Bogner or Budda I suppose?

Your right on track Hunter, i think you just should let the sound sink in some time before hitting the eq. The Vintage Marshall sound is trebly, but if you focus on the harmonics it will fill up a stadion. Experiment with your fretting, it make alot of difference with me at least and brings out the dynamics and harmonics better. You can get a fairly good and tight bass responce from the greenbacks with some tweaking, the amps eq is pretty limited though. I personally dont care much for fully saturated bottom end, ill rather play that wide open sound. Oh yes, i even boost the highs and mids a bit! ^^

Once again im amazed by your playing, you combine skill and passion wonderfully! 8)

Hope the greenbacks work out well for you, they at least kept me busy for many years and im not the only one

DeanS · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2008, 12:13:58 PM »

Well, I don't call that thin- its just the sort of tone that I like from a Marshall ie nice upper mids sizzle- great playing as well...

hunter · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2008, 02:16:19 PM »

Quote from: Henk

Your right on track Hunter, i think you just should let the sound sink in some time before hitting the eq. The Vintage Marshall sound is trebly, but if you focus on the harmonics it will fill up a stadion. Experiment with your fretting, it make alot of difference with me at least and brings out the dynamics and harmonics better. You can get a fairly good and tight bass responce from the greenbacks with some tweaking, the amps eq is pretty limited though. I personally dont care much for fully saturated bottom end, ill rather play that wide open sound. Oh yes, i even boost the highs and mids a bit! ^^

Once again im amazed by your playing, you combine skill and passion wonderfully! 8)

Hope the greenbacks work out well for you, they at least kept me busy for many years and im not the only one

Thanks a lot Henk. Yeah I can't wait for next rehearsal to crank the amp, I did it very quick and the tone became just better and better.

What did you mean with the fretting thing, this caught my interest and I'd like to understand/learn what you mean. Do you mean the different sound depending where you play chords?

By the way, here a pic I posted in the other thread:

Henk · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2008, 04:48:12 PM »

Well, fretting is probably not the correct term. Probably articulation is better but then a more specific aspect of that. Anyway, ive heard a guitarist play arpeggios, but then on the frets and that idea kind of facinated me. He had alot more timing fret/picking tricks which absolutely blew my mind. Basically placing your fingers closer to the frets dampens a tone, but there is much more going on harmonics/dynamics wise IMO. I for instance do bends far away from the fret.

It at least for me gave a whole new perspective on how to set up a guitar, the action, fret size but also the relation with the fretboard and which strings to use. Kind of why big frets and low action dont work for me basically.

Anyway maybe a nice idea to ponder about on a rainy sunday....

Henk · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2008, 04:12:45 PM »

Rereading my previous post i think i have lost my marbles entirely.....

Anyway(after some searching), it was about fretting and more specifically left hand dampening and the way placement on the space between frets influences the amount of dampening and in that way the harmonics. I used this one finger dampening alot with staccato bass licks.

Dont ask me why i started talking about this though :oops: Maybe i heard some articulation things that could be improved with a few fretting tricks maybe.

Anyway, excuse the odd comment and forgive me ever mentioning it.

hunter · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2008, 07:39:35 PM »

Quote from: Henk

Rereading my previous post i think i have lost my marbles entirely.....

Anyway(after some searching), it was about fretting and more specifically left hand dampening and the way placement on the space between frets influences the amount of dampening and in that way the harmonics. I used this one finger dampening alot with staccato bass licks.

Dont ask me why i started talking about this though :oops: Maybe i heard some articulation things that could be improved with a few fretting tricks maybe.

Anyway, excuse the odd comment and forgive me ever mentioning it.

Hey come on, fair enough, no need to apologise, I think it was a good comment. Unlike other amps this one is hyper transparent, so it needs attention to detail in playing style that's for sure.

Thanks also for the tips re the modding in the other thread!

Cheers
CJ

FernandoDuarte · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2008, 08:34:10 PM »

cr@p!!!!! What a nice tone!!! Specially for the solos!

JamesHealey · « **Reply #13 on:** February 18, 2008, 12:15:58 PM »

I likey nice marshall tone!

hunter · « **Reply #14 on:** February 19, 2008, 10:56:08 PM »

Soooo, tonight I had my first rehearsal with the VM.

It ripped. Gotta get that volume pot under control for the clean bits, but other than that, man does this thing cut through and give me goosebumps when I dive in.

First tube amp ever (despite the TinyTerror) that I cranked past noon in rehearsal without complaints from the band mates. Moved lots of air and gave me lots of fun, now I'm so excited, can't wait for thursday to have the next rehearsal!