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noodleplugerine

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Locking Nut Question:
« on: March 08, 2008, 03:39:03 PM »
Now - I love Locking trems - But I hate locking nuts.

If you have a neck which is fitted with a locking nut, and you don't want to have to lock it - What options do you have?

Can I just take the clamps off and install some locking tuners?

Can I replace the locking nut with a more ingenious system?
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Davey

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2008, 04:07:46 PM »
well.. you can take it to a luthier to take the nut off, tinker with the shelf for a while, install a normal nut and then you either installa behind the nut lock, or a set of locking tuners

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2008, 04:15:23 PM »
Locking tuners sounds like a plan.
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noodleplugerine

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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2008, 04:19:14 PM »
http://www.wdmusic.com/roller_nut_black_24598_prd1.htm this looks good - Combined with some Sperzels should be good right?

or these:



Will Sperzels keep in tune as well as a locking nut?
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2008, 04:27:50 PM »
Quote from: noodleplugerine
http://www.wdmusic.com/roller_nut_black_24598_prd1.htm this looks good - Combined with some Sperzels should be good right?

or these:



Will Sperzels keep in tune as well as a locking nut?

Don't think machineheads could lock as well as any locking nut, if they could, there would be no locking nuts anyways.

But I could be wrong.
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Will

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2008, 05:52:19 PM »
Not to sure, but also is it not preferable to have down pressure, as to stop strings jumping the nut slots?

irrelevant if you have string tree or the like

noodleplugerine

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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2008, 06:36:18 PM »
Quote from: Will
Not to sure, but also is it not preferable to have down pressure, as to stop strings jumping the nut slots?

irrelevant if you have string tree or the like


Which I do.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2008, 07:29:45 PM »
Quote from: noodleplugerine
http://www.wdmusic.com/roller_nut_black_24598_prd1.htm this looks good - Combined with some Sperzels should be good right?

or these:



Will Sperzels keep in tune as well as a locking nut?

These wont work unless you shave off 1.5mm f the fingerboard as the roller is set back from the line where the nut should start
It would ruin your intonation
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noodleplugerine

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2008, 07:46:56 PM »
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Quote from: noodleplugerine
http://www.wdmusic.com/roller_nut_black_24598_prd1.htm this looks good - Combined with some Sperzels should be good right?

or these:



Will Sperzels keep in tune as well as a locking nut?

These wont work unless you shave off 1.5mm f the fingerboard as the roller is set back from the line where the nut should start
It would ruin your intonation


Any alternative suggestions? Or would taking the clamps off be fine?
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2008, 08:07:24 PM »
Quote from: noodleplugerine


Any alternative suggestions? Or would taking the clamps off be fine?


Yes - take the clamps off

OR USE AN EBANOL REPLACEMENT ONE

http://www.allparts.uk.com/ebanol-metal-base-11116-inch-p-4306.html?p=product
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2008, 08:48:19 PM »
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Yes - take the clamps off

OR USE AN EBANOL REPLACEMENT ONE

I suggested that nut the other day.  Are they any good Jon?
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2008, 10:21:28 PM »
The ebanol floyd replacement one is possibly the simplest replacement add some locking tuners and it should be nearly as stable...

it'll be like using a wilky or very good vibrato with locking tuners just more range...

Good luck and let us know how you like the new setup schaller locking tuners should fit most normal tuning setups, however lots of people take out the sperzel pin and just tighten the nut on the top...