Username: Password:

Author Topic: Blackstar (2nd time around)  (Read 11975 times)

hamfist

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1341
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« on: March 23, 2008, 04:47:57 PM »
I've just got myself another Blackstar pedal.  I had a Dual last year, and liked it but couldn't quite get it to gel perfectly with the Jtm45 I was using at the time, for the singing lead tone I was trying to use it for.

I replaced the Dual with an MI Audio Crunchbox, which is a fine pedal but in the end I decided that it's too much of a one trick pony, and rather lacking in mids for my liking.

  Anyway, now that I'm playing an AC30 (for the moment, LOL !), I thought I'd try the whole range of the Blackstar pedals with it to see if I could get nearer  the range of lead tones I wanted from a pedal.

So i took my amp off to M&M Music in Southampton and took a while auditioning the range of Blackstar pedals.
  I still liked the Dual, but could still not get around the shared EQ  is has between the two channels - seems like a big fault with this pedal. You have to set the channels to sounding very similar to each other for the EQ to work well with each. Seems then to be no point having it as a two channel pedal.  I know Dave (Twinfan) and others seem to get around it, but I can't get it to work as a 2 channel pedal for my uses.
  the HT Boost is  a simple clean boost, no dirt, just boost. As a boost, it works great, but not what I was looking for. there are also just as good, and cheaper, and MUCH smaller boosts on the market. I would not be buying this pedal if I wanted another clean boost.
  the HT Drive I was expecting to like, but didn't at all. Didn't sound anything like the HT Dual.  Difficult to put my finger on what I didn't like, it just wasn't what I was looking for.
  The HT Dist - Ah yes !  Seemed to have exactly the same gain range and tone of the HT Dual, but just one channel. I ws getting exactly the right tones with this one.  
  The Dual at £140 was not going to tempt me, when the Dist was only £99. So, I am now a Blackstar owner again - the Dist is sitting nicely wedged between my GI Fuzz and my Volume pedal. it's a real whopper, but my board's big enough to take it. I'm well pleased with it so far. I have yet to gig it loud, in anger as yet, but expect it to produce the goods.
  BTW, it's important to have the transformer in the power supply well away from the pedal itself. You can a load of hum if it's too close or in the "wrong" orientation. Not a problem, just something to be aware of.

  And to you metalheads, I'm sorry but I didn't try the HT DistX ... not really my thang.

Oh, I also tried the Artisan 30 combo while I was there. It's a very, very nice amp. Surprisingly little gain, but cleans, low gain and mid gain tones were excellent - possibly the best from any combo I've tried (and that's quite a few). Thankfully, still not as nice to my ears as my Ac30 through my cab, although I would have liked to try a head version (which they do not do of the 30Watter yet) through my cab.
  For guys looking for more vintage and low-mid gain tones, it's really a great new player in the field.

 As always, thanks for reading my ramblings.

MrBump

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 3405
  • Essex! Home of the Brave!!!
    • This Is Essex
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2008, 05:40:11 PM »
Interesting stuff.  I DO think that the Blackstar range has much to offer.

I'm a HT Dual owner myself, the shared EQ isn't such an issue for me as I don't play it live, and I like to tweek!  

Mark.
BKPs Past and Present - Nailbombs, Mules, Blackguard Flat 50's, VHII's & Trilogy Suite with Neck & Bridge Baseplates!

Jonny

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2890
  • Seven-String Financial Analyst in Training
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2008, 06:58:56 PM »
The DistX is for Metal?

Well at least I know not to get the Dist, Dual or Drive for it. Or could one of them be good for it?
"Would you like some lemon oil?"
"Oh, no thanks, I don't eat fruit."

hamfist

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1341
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2008, 09:50:36 PM »
Quote from: Jonny
The DistX is for Metal?

Well at least I know not to get the Dist, Dual or Drive for it. Or could one of them be good for it?


The Dist and Dual are both pretty high gain at anywhere near full gain, but probably not having quite such a "modern" feel as the DistX supposedly is.

Jonny

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2890
  • Seven-String Financial Analyst in Training
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2008, 10:55:02 PM »
Quote from: hamfist
Quote from: Jonny
The DistX is for Metal?

Well at least I know not to get the Dist, Dual or Drive for it. Or could one of them be good for it?


The Dist and Dual are both pretty high gain at anywhere near full gain, but probably not having quite such a "modern" feel as the DistX supposedly is.

Will see if the shop near me has the DistX, they have the Dual but it's displayed in its box, etc. I don't want to hassle them, lol..
"Would you like some lemon oil?"
"Oh, no thanks, I don't eat fruit."

Adam.M

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1109
    • http://www.healeyamps.co.uk
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2008, 11:26:31 PM »
Something tells me getting a HT-Dist and HT-DistX  for different drive styles would be more for me than the HT-Dual...

And get a overdrive like the fulldrive or T-Rex Alberta to boost it when needs be...

Has ANYONE done a comparison of the Dist and DistX and written about it? i'd love to hear anyones opinion right now, theres no where near me that does them.
www.healeyamps.co.uk

PRS Cu 24, Carlsbro 60TC, Line 6 AM4, Dunlop DB01

ilÿti

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1325
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2008, 11:48:11 PM »
I'm toying with the idea of using the Dual or Dist into a clean amp and boost it with my Alberta for solos. It would probably be a cheaper and more flexible solution than having to buy an amp with decent clean and OD channels. It just happens to be a bitch to find a cheap clean amp that has an effects loop, which is pretty much a necesity.
Does anyone know when they will hit the american market?
Crawlers, Mule-7s
The Danish parliament is working on an official apology for Lars Ulrich

hamfist

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1341
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2008, 08:39:34 AM »
Quote from: Adam.M
Something tells me getting a HT-Dist and HT-DistX  for different drive styles would be more for me than the HT-Dual...


I would agree. Much more useful, although it would obviously cost you an extra £60 more than an HT Dual.

hamfist

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1341
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2008, 08:42:54 AM »
Quote from: ilyti
I'm toying with the idea of using the Dual or Dist into a clean amp and boost it with my Alberta for solos. It would probably be a cheaper and more flexible solution than having to buy an amp with decent clean and OD channels. It just happens to be a bitch to find a cheap clean amp that has an effects loop, which is pretty much a necesity.
Does anyone know when they will hit the american market?


That sounds like a good plan. the Dual and DIst certainly react very nicely to boosts infront of them. They should do, as they are just a tube pre-amp really.
  At the moment it's only the Artisan amp series that are available in the US, but I suspect that Guitar Centre will be getting the whole Blackstar range IF those amps are a success.

ilÿti

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1325
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2008, 03:23:07 PM »
Quote from: hamfist
That sounds like a good plan. the Dual and DIst certainly react very nicely to boosts infront of them. They should do, as they are just a tube pre-amp really.

That's good to know!
Crawlers, Mule-7s
The Danish parliament is working on an official apology for Lars Ulrich

ToonLP

  • Flyweight
  • *
  • Posts: 66
Blackstar Pedals & Amps
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2008, 07:46:02 PM »
I play a HT-Dual into a Blackstar Artisan 15 combo and LOVE it. I partner the HT-Dual with a Fulltone OCD and it gives me all the crunch, overdrive and distortion sounds I could ever ask for.

Blackstar kit is amazing. I've had 8 amps in the last 10 years - Marshall, Fender, Boogie etc etc.......... and the Blackstar blows them all away for sound quality and build quality. If you're in the market for a new high quality tube amp - audition the Blackstars. You won't regret it.
I am not young enough to know everything

LP R9 VOS with Mules
Marshall 2061X head with 2061CX cab

AndyB

  • Strawweight
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2008, 09:15:04 PM »
Hi Guys,

Just bought an HT dual and it sounds fantastic with some really nice tones. It would be nice if the high gain channel was a little brighter compared with the crunch channel but that is a minor gripe.

set up :

Maxton Comp > Cry Baby > Marshall BB2 > HT Dual > Marshall 50W plexi > late 70's Marshall 4x12 with G12H-30's.

What I do is set my jumpered 50W plexi reiisue at around 5 on the treble channel and 3 on the normal channel through a THD hotplate. This gives a really nice just breaking up sound that cleans up really well.

The crunch channel of the HT dual is set at 6 for gain and 5 for volume. I've a/b'd this with the plexi on full whack and the tone is near as damn it identical.  I have the same gain and volume settings on the high gain channel which retains more of the brightness but is great for a nice lead tone. Before the HD Dual I have a Marshall Bluesbraker pedal set to boost to overdrive the HD dual for solo's which really works nicely.  The compressor also works really well on channel one of the HT dual to fatten things up.

I've read a few postings regarding the problems with using wahs. I noticed this when I mounted the adaptor onto my pedalboard near my wah. The hum from my amp was incredible and the wah became unusable.

I have tracked the problem down the HT dual PSU itself. With my strat or tele, if I go anywhere near the adaptor (like within 6 feet) it is picked up by the pick ups on my guitar and hum is heard through the amp. This does not happen with any other PSU's I have. The effect is like having a single coil guitar next to a computor monitor.

Has anyone else noticed noise from the PSU or do I have just have a faulty one?

March

  • Featherweight
  • ***
  • Posts: 270
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2008, 11:59:13 PM »
I kind of like the Blackstar pedals, I have the Boost, Drive, Dist-X and the Dual. They are all great pedals.

One thing I will say regarding the Dist and Dist-X is that I did not percieve the Dist-X having any more or less gain than the Dist, it's the voicing that seems to make the tone heavier - it seems to my ears to be more scooped in the upper mids with more bottom end.

As I mentioned earlier, these are great pedals with a wide range of quality tones for very good money.
VHII's, Nailbomb's & Irish Tours :-)

ilÿti

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1325
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2008, 12:13:33 AM »
Hmm... the comments regarding HT Dual + wah usage may have put me off a great deal.  :?
Any other testomonies to whether it works or not?
Crawlers, Mule-7s
The Danish parliament is working on an official apology for Lars Ulrich

Twinfan

  • Light Heavyweight
  • ******
  • Posts: 10528
Blackstar (2nd time around)
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2008, 12:35:01 AM »
It doesn't work silently with a wah.  In a gig situation, it's not an issue though.

I've found the PSU of the Dual to be buzzy too, but I don't locate it on my board (I move just off the board in use) and for the tone it makes I live with it  ;)