Author Topic: crazy pickup ideas (Read 3636 times)

zaraki_fan · « **on:** April 22, 2008, 01:29:20 PM »

jus a place to suggest crazy pickup ideas and comment on others :D

to start it off how about a calibrated set of warpigs with a ceramic magnet in the bridge and an alnico v magnet in the neck.... wound out of phase with each other like the pg blues set!!!

and now.... discuss! :lol:

ilÿti · « **Reply #1 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:33:53 PM »

That's not all that crazy.. get a push-pull and mini toggle and you can do the phase shifting on any set of pickups.

I think the craziest idea I've seen here is "what if I wired two übersinners in series".

blue · « **Reply #2 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:05:00 PM »

not really crazy, but i was just wondering, if you put different grades of alnico in different positions in a single coil, how would it sound? say, alnico V under the bass strings and alnico II under the trebles? and could the same be done in a humbucker, using alnico poles instead of a bar magnet?

blue · « **Reply #3 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:07:29 PM »

just read the next thread down about magnetic poles in humbuckers! i wonder did i subconciously see that or is it synchronicity!? :lol:

Philly Q · « **Reply #4 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:23:51 PM »

Quote from: blue

not really crazy, but i was just wondering, if you put different grades of alnico in different positions in a single coil, how would it sound? say, alnico V under the bass strings and alnico II under the trebles?

I know Seymour Duncan does that on his Five-Two Strat and Tele pickups - AV to keep the bass strings defined and punchy, AII to soften the icepick factor on the treble strings. Never tried them, but sounds a good idea on paper.

blue · « **Reply #5 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:32:38 PM »

Quote from: Philly Q

I know Seymour Duncan does that on his Five-Two Strat and Tele pickups - AV to keep the bass strings defined and punchy, AII to soften the icepick factor on the treble strings. Never tried them, but sounds a good idea on paper.

"sigh" every time i have an idea, it seems someone else had it first! well, at least now i know it should work.

maverickf1jockey · « **Reply #6 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:34:28 PM »

At one point I was planning on doing a humbucker made out of two Pig-90s.

Is that good enough?

I was also thinking of a Mississippi pig (pig-90 in MQ casing) in the neck but if I were to do it I'd probably do it with a New Porker (Manhattan casing).

Will · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:45:12 PM »

Quote from: maverickf1jockey

At one point I was planning on doing a humbucker made out of two Pig-90s.

Is that good enough?

I was also thinking of a Mississippi pig (pig-90 in MQ casing) in the neck but if I were to do it I'd probably do it with a New Porker (Manhattan casing).

Yup, that is the craziest thing I have heard around here, was about to put that in (although, I thought it was Sambo's idea :P ) but yeah, that would be insane

gingataff · « **Reply #8 on:** April 22, 2008, 04:55:59 PM »

Here's an idea I had; One large bobbin roughly the size of a humbucker with two sets of pole pieces and magnet underneath. Kind of like the unwanted offspring of a humbucker and a P90. I'm not sure if you could get enough windings around it to be worthwhile though.

Ratrod · « **Reply #9 on:** April 22, 2008, 06:30:31 PM »

Be carefull with those crazy ideas. I once thought of a pickup cover that reminded me of the valve covers of an old hot rod engine and within two days BKP came up with the burned chrome cover.

zaraki_fan · « **Reply #10 on:** April 22, 2008, 06:47:55 PM »

lol i didnt really expect anyone to pay attention to this thread :lol:
im wonderin... i kno out of phase sounds hollow and thin but how would the high gain, bassy, mid drenched craziness of the warpig sound out of phase? the same?

Will · « **Reply #11 on:** April 22, 2008, 06:52:07 PM »

Is the out of phase thing actually reversing the phase of the pickup, or just setting one coil from the other?

Think I read that around here?

Philly Q · « **Reply #12 on:** April 22, 2008, 07:00:09 PM »

Quote from: zaraki_fan

... i kno out of phase sounds hollow and thin but how would the high gain, bassy, mid drenched craziness of the warpig sound out of phase? the same?

It'll sound hollowER and thinnER but still pretty powerful, I'd imagine. Could be an interesting option.

Quote from: Will

Is the out of phase thing actually reversing the phase of the pickup, or just setting one coil from the other?

This is putting two pickups out of phase with each other, by swapping the orientation of one of the magnets or by switching the wires of one pickup (to make red ground and black hot). You only hear any difference when both pickups are on.

You can also wire the two coils of a humbucker out of phase with each other, but it's a pretty useless sound.

Will · « **Reply #13 on:** April 22, 2008, 07:09:04 PM »

Yeah, Philly, was on about putting each coil out by a switch, relating to Ilyiti's comment

ilÿti · « **Reply #14 on:** April 22, 2008, 09:05:48 PM »

Quote from: Will

Yeah, Philly, was on about putting each coil out by a switch, relating to Ilyiti's comment

I was talking about phase reverse of the whole humbucker, the kind that only makes a difference when both pickups are on.
Many of the guitars that Carvin made in the 80s had this switch as a standard, even with quite high output humbuckers.