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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2008, 04:16:59 PM »
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That cold sweat that Tim suggested should suit you down to the ground for the neck, I would think. But don't take my word for it ;)

(I'd take Tim's suggestions as they are, the man knows more than I can possibly imagine when it comes to this stuff!)


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The neck pickup is where this set really disapoints, its really really poor. It just sound like a wooly mess, no clarity or string definition what so ever. The low output is really evident here, it doesnt even match the bridge pickup (before you ask, Yes i had them installed proffesionally, by no other than Mansons). To be honest you might as well not even have a neck pickup if its as poor as this.

???


Where is that from?

Doesnt sound like any BKP I've ever played.

If its about the CS neck: it couldnt be further from my experience. It has a really chiming, piano-like clean and a tonne of sting definition under high gain.

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2008, 04:19:16 PM »
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The neck pickup is where this set really disapoints, its really really poor. It just sound like a wooly mess, no clarity or string definition what so ever. The low output is really evident here, it doesnt even match the bridge pickup (before you ask, Yes i had them installed proffesionally, by no other than Mansons). To be honest you might as well not even have a neck pickup if its as poor as this.

???


Where is that from?

Doesnt sound like any BKP I've ever played.

If its about the CS neck: it couldnt be further from my experience. It has a really chiming, piano-like clean and a tonne of sting definition under high gain.

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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2008, 04:21:01 PM »
Regarding Roobubba's comment about the Cold Sweat neck, I presume Tim's recommendation was for the CS bridge and Stormy Monday neck.  

It's the SM that's going to give you those Slash neck sounds, so that review of the CS neck, accurate or inaccurate, is kind of irrelevant.
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Horlicks

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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 04:21:45 PM »
*looks at his amp*
*sees Line 6 Spider and Marshall AVT*
 :roll:

^ Will stormy monday do shred though?
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2008, 04:22:09 PM »
Yeah I'm with MDV^^ I don't know where that second quote has come from, but that's completely the opposite of everything I hear about the CS here and elsewhere!

if you're confused about my post, perhaps you could specify what it is you'd like me to clarify?

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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2008, 04:23:27 PM »
Ahhh I see Philly, yes that would make a lot more sense!!

In which case, I'm wrong (as usual!) and you should go with the Stormy Monday neck :)

I was, however, right about one thing: Tim does indeed know infinitely more about this stuff than me :D

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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2008, 06:11:36 PM »
What about the crawler?
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2008, 07:17:27 PM »
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I'm still thinking of the nailbomb because it's meant to be really warm and my amp is too bright ATM. Neck pup still undecided, what has great cleans and can do Vai style gain and tones?


not sure about the nailbomb being warm myself... in my experience it's quite a bright pickup.  if warmth is what you're going for then perhaps the holydiver would be a better choice?

oh and what everyone else said about the cold sweat neck, the one I've got is utterly brilliant
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2008, 07:26:14 PM »
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I'm still thinking of the nailbomb because it's meant to be really warm and my amp is too bright ATM. Neck pup still undecided, what has great cleans and can do Vai style gain and tones?


not sure about the nailbomb being warm myself... in my experience it's quite a bright pickup.  if warmth is what you're going for then perhaps the holydiver would be a better choice?

oh and what everyone else said about the cold sweat neck, the one I've got is utterly brilliant


Thanks for the comment, at the moment i'm veering towards a cold sweat neck because they seem so versatile and I normally use coil-split for cleans.

For the bridge I'm looking at Cold Sweat, Crawler, Nailbomb...
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2008, 10:34:08 PM »
Cold Sweat neck would be a good choice to come close to both Slash and Vai tones, as would Abraxas or Crawler. For the bridge you haven't really mentioned specific tones, but if your amp is too bright for your liking, better error on the side of warm than the side of bright don't you think?. Cold Sweat and Nailbomb have a definite edge to them that could be perceived as birght. Holy Diver I'd say.
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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2008, 12:10:22 PM »
The CS neck will get you a lot closer to vai than slash (dissimilar sounds).

Perhaps you could get slash out of it with the tone rolled back? I havent tried it, though, just an idea.

Holy diver, by my understanding of its reputation, wouldnt be a bad choice. I wouldnt call the nailbombs bright though: they dont have that much treble, but rather an open crunch in the high mids. Depends what part of the spectrum youre calling bright, I suppose.

You couldnt go far wrong for what you want with a crawler set, either.

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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2008, 12:29:12 PM »
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You couldnt go far wrong for what you want with a crawler set, either.

Agreed with a but.

The middle position is definitely not for everyone.
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2008, 12:51:59 PM »
I got on well with it (when I had crawlers), but I can see where youre coming from there.

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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2008, 01:23:31 PM »
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You couldnt go far wrong for what you want with a crawler set, either.

Agreed with a but.

The middle position is definitely not for everyone.


Any chance you could describe why? Sounds interesting

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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2008, 01:33:34 PM »
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You couldnt go far wrong for what you want with a crawler set, either.

Agreed with a but.

The middle position is definitely not for everyone.


Any chance you could describe why? Sounds interesting

I'm interested too.  I've got mine wired out of phase, so I don't really know what the normal in-phase sound is like.
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