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Antag

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Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« on: August 21, 2008, 09:53:46 AM »
Take one of these

+ two of these:


+ two of these:


= mega mental metal cab of DOOM! :twisted:




I've been stuck on 999 posts for ages (was determined to save #1000 for this) but the speakers took forever to arrive! :(  I finally wired it up last night & have been playing all morning.  I cannot believe how awesome this sounds :)





I'm still in the "euphoric" stage right now, so can't make sensible objective comment :lol: but first impressions are that this combination is absolutely ideal for my Engl Savage.  Yes, there will be clips... :)
BKPs: HD, MM, NB, PK, CS, Ab (b&n); Am (b only); VHII, Tril (n only); IT, Slow, Sult (m&n)

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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 10:33:11 AM »
Awesome.

Any pic of a K100 is enough to make me weak at the knees.
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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2008, 10:40:01 AM »
Awesome.

Any pic of a Classic Lead 80 is enough to make me weak at the knees.

(not tempted to mount them in an X pattern?)
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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 11:43:09 AM »
(not tempted to mount them in an X pattern?)
No, I wanted to be able to switch the cab in stereo & just use the CL80s or just the K100s.

If I stand to one side of the cab then move to the other there's a subtle difference.  I'm going to have a go at an A/B comparison between the two sides tomorrow, but my impression is that these two speakers compliment each other nicely & are a huge improvement on my Mesa 2x12 cab.

Don't get me wrong - I LIKE Vintage 30s & have used them for years.  But while Vintage 30s in a Mesa cab are great with the dark/dense/loose & slightly "spongy" sound of the Rectifier, with the Savage I felt that the top end was a little hard & that I could get a much better sound from it with something else.  Now I've found it :D

One thing I didn't expect was how much better the Savage's CLEAN channel sounds in this cab.  I often use an MXR Chorus to warm up my cleans but with the Savage & Mesa cab I always felt that I needed to use it (the MXR will warm up just about anything :))  Now, I can happily play clean without the chorus.

FWIW, the stock V12-60s weren't bad at all (there have been a few negative comments on this forum about them).  I'm tempted to get another one of these cabs at some point & leave it stock for an alternate sound.  But I fell in love with CL80s years ago & have always wanted them in a closed back cab.
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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2008, 01:17:50 PM »
classic lead 80s are great and totally under-rated, I'd have them in a heartbeat if was gigging in a 'heavy' band. as it stands, my 55Hz bass cone G12H-30s cover pretty much anything.

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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 02:03:03 PM »
That cab as a whole makes me weak at the knees!

G12Ks are the hound's knackers!

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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2008, 03:02:59 PM »
br00talz

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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2008, 03:20:10 PM »
That's possibly the most brutal cab i've ever seen.
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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2008, 04:42:02 PM »
Looks fab, but I know nothing about either of those drivers.

Can someone educate me?

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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2008, 08:18:04 PM »
Looks fab, but I know nothing about either of those drivers.

Can someone educate me?
Well, I guess you could start with the manufacturer's spec pages here & here

Also, this review helped a lot.
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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2008, 09:29:57 PM »
Thanks. Looking forward to clips!

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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2008, 09:53:07 PM »
Looks fab, but I know nothing about either of those drivers.

Can someone educate me?

the original g12-80 was a g12-65 with a heavy magnet and slightly beefed up coil. i've never played one, but it sounds well tasty to me from that description.

of course the classic lead is a sort of version of that. from pieceing together internet rumours, i think that means a vintage 30 with a large dust cap and slightly beefed up coil. again a tasty description... but this time i have played a modern classic lead 80 for a bit on 'strange' gear. it sounded like my v30/g12h 2x12 would if it were a 1x12. i'd like a classic lead 80 in a 1x12.

some people say the g12-80 and the classic lead 80 sound quite different, i suppose you might expect that from the descriptions i just gave (which i'm open to correction on) - but they must have a roughly similar coil rigidity and they both have a large dust cap. and of course they both have that 'H' magnet. one might draw rough comparisons of the g12-65 and the v30 cones as being classic celestion-y, but that surely is where the difference lies - well, i reckon anyway :)
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Re: Post #1000: my NCD recipe...
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2008, 11:15:22 PM »
SOOOOOO Sick!  I am ecstatic for you!  That is an awsome buy  :D
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