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Re: Pro setup makes all the difference!
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2008, 06:25:31 PM »
Yeah I'm comfortable with adjusting it myself but I dont seem to be great at it as my epiphone feels cr@p compared to the pro-setup Pearl now :P I thought it was great before I got the Pearl back. Probably the fret dress more than setup. I've raised the action a bit and the intonation still seems to be right so I'll probably keep raising it a little bit until the intonation goes off then back it down again.

Its intonation that I have a problem with. My tuner is a Korg DT10 not a strobe so it wont be as accurate I guess, plus its started playing up now so I dont really trust it. Also when I move the saddles it never seems to do anything to the note anyway :?

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Re: Pro setup makes all the difference!
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2008, 09:18:58 AM »
For some reason I can't do intonation with a tuner - it never works for me...

I'm not sure whether it's cheap tuners, not sensitive enough or something. For example I don't trust the tuners in my PODXT and Vox Tonelab anyway - both are capable of saying each string's in tune, I start playing, it's horrible, and when I recheck they say it's still in tune! For ordinary tuning-up I use this little clip-on-the-headstock thing I got cheap a while back - perfect every time :D.

For setting the intonation, though, I've always done it by ear. When I have it to my satisfaction, I sometimes check it with a tuner, and then laugh at the tuner because it thinks I've got it wrong! :lol:

Something I learnt recently though - do you slacken the string off before moving the saddle? I knew you were meant to, but I never bothered, thinking it was too much hassle (I thought it was because you might break the string, and I never have). I had kinda the same problem as you - seemed a bit hit and miss as to whether "moving the saddle" actually did anything. Then I read that if you don't slacken the string first, the saddle doesn't really get a chance to move properly... it'll settle down later, sometime after you think you've set it!

What I do now is slacken the string, hold it off of the saddle, make my adjustment, tune back up and see what it sounds like -repeat as necessary. At first it seemed a bit of rigmarole, but actually, setting the intonation goes a lot faster now (and doesn't seem to be wrong again an hour or so later) :D
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Re: Pro setup makes all the difference!
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2008, 11:14:04 PM »
Havent tried that but I'll give it a go. The Epis intonation is really out, I tried recording something today and even though the strings seemed to be in tune (both in my korg dt10 and qwik tune chromatic tuner), even power chords sounded wrong. In the end I just gave up and used my Pearl, got it all done much quicker without having to faff with tuning once (and I do really love the sound of the pig 90, its really versatile)! Think Pearl is becoming my no1 guitar now, it just sounds and feels so much better now I've got the fret dress and setup, epi feels and sounds all plasticcy :( I think a fret dress and setup will help tho so I'm going to take it to the tech soon, probably wait until my birthday in Nov. so mum and dad will pay :lol:

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Re: Pro setup makes all the difference!
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2008, 01:43:25 PM »
Yeah, your experience has got me going...

I've never had a professional set-up before, but I'm planning on getting my Baja done now. That's the one most in need of a fret dress, so I'm hoping on getting it into Jonathan's shop this weekend if I can.

I'm trying really hard to control my expectations on how much of an improvement it will be - but each time you post on this subject I start imagining the "guitar to end all guitars..." :lol:
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Re: Pro setup makes all the difference!
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2008, 03:50:32 PM »
haha well I'd never had any of my guitars set up before either and my Epi felt great to play, better than loads of others I've tried in shops etc. Then I got this back and its just so much better that I hardly play the Epi right now :lol:

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Re: Pro setup makes all the difference!
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2008, 10:53:33 AM »
After a lot of faffing about with the action I've got my Epiphone playing almost as good as the pearl. I think the actions still a bit higher but it doesnt buzz too much so I'll leave it. Havent messed around with the intonation yet so I'm not sure how well that'll go, but to be honest with all the saddles set all the way to the back of the bridge it actually sounds in pretty good tune which I wasnt expecting. It still doesnt feel as smooth or fast as the Pearl I guess thats because of the fret dress and the nice finish he put on the back of the neck?

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Re: Pro setup makes all the difference!
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2008, 01:05:01 PM »
It still doesnt feel as smooth or fast as the Pearl I guess thats because of the fret dress and the nice finish he put on the back of the neck?
I guess yes