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Oli

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My 8 string build
« on: September 17, 2008, 06:52:33 PM »
Thought that i'd split from the 'custom guitar in the works' thread, so as not to derail it.

Well, during the build of the fanned-fret 7, i bought some bits and pieces, including an 8 string bridge. A few weeks ago i started to crack on with building the guitar, and i've been making some speedy progress:

Less than a week ago, this was the state of play:


And today this is how it looks:


I'm really happy with how it's coming along, i feel it's of much better quality than the 7 (which isn't bad :)). The neck needs a little more work on the heel, and a final look at the carve of it, but it's pretty much there. The fretboard needs to be radiused still, and i haven't decided on the inlays yet, so there's that to do. Next up is to mount the bridge, and draw up the control cavity. Pickup cavities will be routed when i can afford to get a pickup for it, but i'm unsure of which pickup (bareknuckle or otherwise) i'll be getting yet. The body will have come carving for the arm and the gut-cut, but that's the general body shape :)

A final photo of the neck join- using ferrules and bolts instead of screws and a plate. you can see where i need to recede the carve of the neck a little to blend in with the body:

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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 08:09:39 PM »
Very nice.  The body construction looks more like a bass than guitar, is there some reason for this choice?  Does it have more sustain this way, especially on the 7th and 8th strings?
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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 09:37:34 PM »
Looking nice, very Fodera's bass... :D

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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 09:48:05 PM »
Love the shape.

Looking pretty good!
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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2008, 10:00:58 PM »
That's a LOT of work in a week!!

Good to see more love of multiscales here, and this one really looks interesting :)

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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2008, 10:04:36 PM »
Nice man, I'll be regularly watching this thread, few things though, why are fretboards radiused in the first place? I saw one on youtube that wasn't the other day and wondered since... + why fanned frets on a 7? What's it tuned to? + there no way you can file that neck joint down more? Looks like the higher frets might not be so comfortable to play.

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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2008, 11:03:52 PM »
oppro: i came up with the shape because i really like the look of single cuts, and you tend to see them mostly on basses unfortunately, so i thought that because an 8 string is getting near bass territory, that it'd be appropriate :) Sustain should be good, as i'm really happy with the neck join- even without the bolts, it's a very good, snug fit... time will tell though, but i'm hopeful at the moment.

Roo: this instrument isn't going to be multiscale i'm afraid, it'll be a standard 28"- when i bought the bridge, I hadn't considered it as  a fanned 8 string bridge (or 8 individual saddles), would be prohibitively expensive for me at the moment. I'll leave the 1st multiscale on this forum to Philosoful, but our other fanned-fret ambassador (WesV) is planning a multiscale 8 at some point, so keep your eyes peeled! :)

Philosoful: Fretboards are radiused to provide more comfort, but radius suits different applications; a flatter radius suits playing (and bending) higher up the neck, whilst open chording and stuff lower on the fretboard suits a greater radius. Take a classical guitar and try and play some regular chorded stuff- it feels a bit weird because of the flat radius, but do some shredding on an old strat, and it'll seem a bit odd (don't tell Yngwie that though)... that's some pretty big generalisations there, but that's a very rough explanation.

Fanned-frets on the 7.... it was my first build, and i was very curious about multiscale, so i fancied giving it a shot, thankfully it paid off, and i'm loving the results. I've had really good positive feedback from everyone that has played it :) The fanned fret 7 is tuned to BEADGBe, and this 8 string will be the same, but with a low F# too. The neck join will have a little more taken off of it, it'll be fine for playing the higher frets... it's my first time of trying this style of neck construction with using ferrules and bolts instead of screws and a plate, so in a couple more builds hopefully i'll have it down much better.
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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 07:55:47 AM »
Sweet man :)how long'd it take you to get used to your 7s fans? + you have pics of it? Going to be kind of daunting getting used to a guitar that's scale lengths I've never played before + as wide as an 8 string neck + fans :o

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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 08:10:10 AM »
i like it a lot so far, i really like the singlecut bass styling.  if i was to criticize the shape i think i would make it a bit slimmer in the waist - but i like them curvy

i think access will be fine but i would consider reworking some of the heel a bit - you say there is wood to remove anyway

here was my first bolt-on singlecut:


i basically went for the 4 standard bolts at the end with an extra couple on the extension for support and tried to keep it as far over the bass side as possible - makes a nice thumbrest

i would consider tapering your heel section if you have room



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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 11:47:46 AM »
Beautiful looking guitar!
I really like the idea of having the body travel further up the neck. It looks so much more stable and sustainful!!!

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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 01:10:57 PM »
You got a front shot of that? :o

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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 04:47:00 PM »
Looks great, especially the neck. It's hard to tell from pics, but I think the horn could be a problem. You'd probably need to sculpt the back of it so it doesn't get in the way of your hand.
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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 07:09:28 PM »
You got a front shot of that? :o
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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 11:36:38 PM »
Looks great, especially the neck. It's hard to tell from pics, but I think the horn could be a problem. You'd probably need to sculpt the back of it so it doesn't get in the way of your hand.

From my initial feel of it, it's a little tight, but i was planning on carving out the inside of the horn a little more anyway.... i don't think this guitar will be primarily a lead instument anyway! ;)

They've got a couple of the ESP 8 strings in Rockers on Denmark St at the moment- i tried the Steven Carter signature model, and it felt quite nice to play, picked up a couple of .074" strings in preparation for this build :)
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Re: My 8 string build
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2008, 09:10:03 AM »
From my initial feel of it, it's a little tight, but i was planning on carving out the inside of the horn a little more anyway...

Having that done on my 8 so any high notes/streches up high = no horn digging into the back of my hand.