I am officially FED UP with downtuning

[Davey]

which brings me right back to:
some of you people really cant read...

he said EB (an octave lower) ... cos the numerology is a touch more difficult on guitar, as everybody is all over the place with what they mean (which doesnt make them wrong, it's just different) .. but that doesnt mean straight Eb, cos that's just half a step lower from e standard. and if you say E flat = Eb, the same as C sharp = C#


also, stop taking everything so goddamn serious

[MDV]

Did you even read my post?!?! :shock: Because the dude said Eb an octave lower than standard Eb!! + found it:

Tuning low doesn't necessarily make the guitar sound like cr@p. If you're using inappropriate strings or bad equipment or just don't know how to use the equipment properly, then yeah, but it's entirely possible to get a heavily detuned guitar to sound good. I tune to drop Ab and Eb below that (yes, an octave and a half step below standard), and I don't have any problems with it. Meshuggah's tone is massive. Stephen Carpenter tunes lower on every album, and his tone is as clear as it is huge.

Chill, Sam, or you can forget your sausage sandwhich.

Deep breaths now, count to 10. I glanced over the original post and didnt take it all in. If that bothers you in proportion to the font size you used, I suggest a cup of tea and a nap at least, therapy at most ;)

[Roobubba]

which brings me right back to:
some of you people really cant read...

he said EB (an octave lower) ... cos the numerology is a touch more difficult on guitar, as everybody is all over the place with what they mean (which doesnt make them wrong, it's just different) .. but that doesnt mean straight Eb, cos that's just half a step lower from e standard. and if you say E flat = Eb, the same as C sharp = C#


also, stop taking everything so goddamn serious

Is now a good point to mention that E flat is not the same as C sharp? :D

[MDV]

which brings me right back to:
some of you people really cant read...

he said EB (an octave lower) ... cos the numerology is a touch more difficult on guitar, as everybody is all over the place with what they mean (which doesnt make them wrong, it's just different) .. but that doesnt mean straight Eb, cos that's just half a step lower from e standard. and if you say E flat = Eb, the same as C sharp = C#


also, stop taking everything so goddamn serious

There is a standard notation. With guitar obviously we'd assume Eb, 1 semitone down from normal E, but if he'd said Eb1 (rather than Eb2, which normal eb would be) it would be understandable with far fewer words ;)

Roo - davey went to the trouble to explain something everyone here knows, dont confuse him!

And davey, the word youre looking for rather than numerology, which is something totally different, is nomenclature ;)

[sambo]

he said EB (an octave lower) ... cos the numerology is a touch more difficult on guitar, as everybody is all over the place with what they mean (which doesnt make them wrong, it's just different) .. but that doesnt mean straight Eb, cos that's just half a step lower from e standard. and if you say E flat = Eb, the same as C sharp = C#

Am I the only one who has no idea what Davey's talking about? :lol:


Philosoful- I see! I thought you were talking about this post from page 3:

other band, allright, can we keep this in Eb, IF you dont want (for whatever reason) play in standard? sure, okay. no problem. week later.. say, can we go to D? *sigh* okay, at least we're playing... next time i talk to em, dude says, listen, i droped my guitar to C# the other day and it sounds amazing! WHAAA??? $%&# OFF!

My mistake :)

[Philosoful]

he said EB (an octave lower) ... cos the numerology is a touch more difficult on guitar, as everybody is all over the place with what they mean (which doesnt make them wrong, it's just different) .. but that doesnt mean straight Eb, cos that's just half a step lower from e standard. and if you say E flat = Eb, the same as C sharp = C#

Am I the only one who has no idea what Davey's talking about? :lol:


Philosoful- I see! I thought you were talking about this post from page 3:

other band, allright, can we keep this in Eb, IF you dont want (for whatever reason) play in standard? sure, okay. no problem. week later.. say, can we go to D? *sigh* okay, at least we're playing... next time i talk to em, dude says, listen, i droped my guitar to C# the other day and it sounds amazing! WHAAA??? $%&# OFF!

My mistake :)

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:on both accounts and Mr MDV, I'm cool but, well, I did repeat myself a few times :lol: :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Davey]

Is now a good point to mention that E flat is not the same as C sharp? :D

hmmm, might be

and yes MDV, that's the word

[kellar]

That was 11 pages of highly entertaining posts. You guys aren't going to call it quits now are you? :D

[Ratrod]

Like dude! You could tune this down two octaves lower than standard guitar tuning, dude.

That would sound like Br00talz!!!!

[Muzzzz]

which brings me right back to:
some of you people really cant read...

he said EB (an octave lower) ... cos the numerology is a touch more difficult on guitar, as everybody is all over the place with what they mean (which doesnt make them wrong, it's just different) .. but that doesnt mean straight Eb, cos that's just half a step lower from e standard. and if you say E flat = Eb, the same as C sharp = C#


also, stop taking everything so goddamn serious

lol.

come again?

[Lew]

I demand clips of an octave and half step de-tuned guitar. What gauge strings do you use?

[HTH AMPS]

Did I miss something?

Six pages of argument.  And for once it had nothing to do with Telecasters, at least until the last page.

Downtuned telecaster



OH NOES!!

Run!!!

Paul Stanley of Kiss fame has really let himself go judging by that picture, jezus!!!  :lol:

[HTH AMPS]

Electric wizard are horrible! Really badly produced stuff!

Good doom SHOULD sound old and broken.  8)

^ +1

thats exactly why the first EW album isn't really 'all that' imo, way too much of a Sabbath debut-album ripoff.  I love EW's sound since then with the sludgy fuzzed out guitar, bass and indistinct vocals.  EW feckin rule, end of!!!

[HTH AMPS]

Katatonia, Pain of Salvation, Anathema?

Maybe Paradise Lost?

I saw Paradise Lost by accident before they 'made it' back in the 80s down The Royal Standard in Walthamstow.

Anyone remember Lawnmower Deth?   :?  :lol:

ha ha, yeah - I had a split LP when I was at school with Lawnmower Deth and Metal Duck.  honourable mentions go to 'Watch Out Grandma (here comes a lawnmower)' and 'March Of The Metal Ducks To The Ponds Of Hell' - great stuff with a sense of it's own stupidity.

[Philosoful]

I demand clips of an octave and half step de-tuned guitar. What gauge strings do you use?

But isn't that just Eb? That's only a half step down :lol: *rolls eyes*

Seriously though, I want to see + know too.