Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?

[Spitfire]

i dont think broderick is any better than friedman, hes just the sort of egomaniac who feels he has to prove it with some sweeps every 10 secs.  Freidman has feeling and imagination when playing and writing.. that puts him over both broderick and drover.

[dave_mc]

Glen Drover was pretty awesome too, he nailed the solos note for note when i saw them (as did broderick, when i could hear his solos, anyway :lol: ).

Sorry for the bad video quality of Broderick, it's quite hard to find something better around. But if you have something more relevant to show us, send it to us !!

I really had a dislike with Drover playing. I really didn't like his style and musical vibe of his own solos + he was too far away from the note to note solos of Friedman !.  :roll:

woops, sorry, i meant when i saw broderick with megadeth live. i wasn't even talking about the videos you posted :lol:

when i saw drover with them live, i think he played the solos note for note. though, if i remember correctly, i saw them with him soon after he joined, so maybe he messed with the solos later.

:)

EDIT: oh yeah, and i like megadeth in spite of mustaine, rather than because of him. :lol: love the songs mustaine writes (and marty's solos), not too fond of mustaine. :lol:

[Stevepage]

Marty Friedman  (with the feeling « of that time » with my beloved Rhoads...):  8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5cdMwWWV4o&feature=related

:o :o :o I was actually at that show! (they played 2 nights at Hammersmith & I went to both of 'em, so whichever one it was, I was there :))

Going off topic somewhat, but at the time Marty had 4 Jacksons: that Rhoads Original, 22 & 24 fret Kelly, but most interestingly a japan-made Firebird prototype sig model with HSS & Floyd (never got off the ground partly because Marty never really liked the Floyd).  Either he sold it or it got stolen, but it turned up at a small guitar shop in London.  I had the chance to buy it for £749 and DIDN'T FV£%!^& DO IT!!!!  :( :oops: :x :roll: :lol:  I've always regretted that....

That sucks, I came across Tony Macalpines custom BC Rich ST in denmark street for about £900. Floyd rose, Dimarzios, maple top, maple neck etc and I passed on it at the time. I wish I bought it cause it sounded amazing.


as for Megadeth's best guitarist. At the moment Friedman was to me. Every solo he recorded sounds amazing and gives me goose bumps.

Give Broderick his chance. I'm sure he's got something up his sleeve for the new Deth album.

[Philly Q]

That sucks, I came across Tony Macalpines custom BC Rich ST in denmark street for about £900. Floyd rose, Dimarzios, maple top, maple neck etc and I passed on it at the time. I wish I bought it cause it sounded amazing.

I remember seeing that, I think.  Was it in Andy's?

[ChunkyMunky]

That sucks, I came across Tony Macalpines custom BC Rich ST in denmark street for about £900. Floyd rose, Dimarzios, maple top, maple neck etc and I passed on it at the time. I wish I bought it cause it sounded amazing.

I remember seeing that, I think.  Was it in Andy's?

Holy.... still for sale right?  PDT_023

[Philly Q]

If it's the one I'm thinking about, it was quite a few years ago.... and in the meantime Andy's has closed, been taken over by Music Ground (I think) and re-opened.

[Dr. Vic]

woops, sorry, i meant when i saw broderick with megadeth live. i wasn't even talking about the videos you posted :lol:

 :lol: why did I thought you were talking about these videos ? Maybe because it's true the one of Broderick is real amateurish quality  :lol:

i like megadeth in spite of mustaine, rather than because of him. :lol: love the songs mustaine writes (and marty's solos), not too fond of mustaine. :lol:

As for me I think Dave Mustaine is part of the very thin circle of muscians who influenced A  LOT the Metal Music, especially while building the 'Speed Metal' style and giving sense to it, with some lightening fast instrumentals, explosive AND original compositions.
 
Lot of people say they can't bear him, for some reasons...And I have the feeling he always stays a whipping-boy, kind of 'blacksheep of the heavy metal's family'. I think this Man is clever enough to have managed his 'business' pretty well for quite 30 years now, while staying the same, with his V guitar and particular singing, despite of some difficulties, despite of some of his choices he assumed...And business is good !  :twisted:

As for his bad-temper and dominatination of the band...Isn't there some other frontmen around that are worst than that ? To me what is said around him is more funny than anything else...  :lol:.... BUT..... he 'only' shouldn't have fired Friedman, BUT ALSO Menza...and Ellefson too :roll:

[dave_mc]

woops, sorry, i meant when i saw broderick with megadeth live. i wasn't even talking about the videos you posted :lol:

 :lol: why did I thought you were talking about these videos ? Maybe because it's true the one of Broderick is real amateurish quality  :lol:

i like megadeth in spite of mustaine, rather than because of him. :lol: love the songs mustaine writes (and marty's solos), not too fond of mustaine. :lol:

As for me I think Dave Mustaine is part of the very thin circle of muscians who influenced A  LOT the Metal Music, especially while building the 'Speed Metal' style and giving sense to it, with some lightening fast instrumentals, explosive AND original compositions.
 
Lot of people say they can't bear him, for some reasons...And I have the feeling he always stays a whipping-boy, kind of 'blacksheep of the heavy metal's family'. I think this Man is clever enough to have managed his 'business' pretty well for quite 30 years now, while staying the same, with his V guitar and particular singing, despite of some difficulties, despite of some of his choices he assumed...And business is good !  :twisted:

As for his bad-temper and dominatination of the band...Isn't there some other frontmen around that are worst than that ? To me what is said around him is more funny than anything else...  :lol:.... BUT..... he 'only' shouldn't have fired Friedman, BUT ALSO Menza...and Ellefson too :roll:

yeah, bad coincidence that the concert i went to had bad sound quality too... :lol:

i don't hate mustaine or anything, just it gets a bit tiresome after a while. but you're right, it's not like he's the only one acting like that.

[HTH AMPS]

Chris Broderick :  (precise and solid as a rock)   :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jBJUUogVyU&feature=related

boring - no expression in the phrases, just lots of notes all played with the same (lack of) feeling.

Marty Friedman  (with the feeling « of that time » with my beloved Rhoads...):  8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5cdMwWWV4o&feature=related

the solo has a real 'singing' quality, there are defined phrases broken up with bent notes then faster flourishes - lots of feeling in this one.

[ChunkyMunky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whGfBGoFrO8&feature=related

That's more like it! :D

[Dr. Vic]

There is no musician on earth, imo, who can play a solo better (I mean with more feeling) than the one who wrote it, because this is not his story, it's the story of the one who built it with his own particular feeling at a particular moment. You can understand it of course and reproduce it if you are good enough (but reproducing Friedman solos, is not a chance given to tons of guitarist, at least for me) but you could never play it better (or tell the story better) cause you haven't the background of the story...

The only one thing I wanted to spot on is in a particular moment on this solo starting in the broderick performance at 0'34 while galopping up the neck, each note played is the one on the CD with the same eveness and fluidity, and I found it incredible, I have never heard that before, even when Friedman himself played it in ALL his lives performances...

Anyway still thinking they both are excellent...AND Friedman musical sense and original creativity is just unique. 8)

[nfe]

There is no musician on earth, imo, who can play a solo better (I mean with more feeling) than the one who wrote it, because this is not his story, it's the story of the one who built it with his own particular feeling at a particular moment. You can understand it of course and reproduce it if you are good enough (but reproducing Friedman solos, is not a chance given to tons of guitarist, at least for me) but you could never play it better (or tell the story better) cause you haven't the background of the story...

The only one thing I wanted to spot on is in a particular moment on this solo starting in the broderick performance at 0'34 while galopping up the neck, each note played is the one on the CD with the same eveness and fluidity, and I found it incredible, I have never heard that before, even when Friedman himself played it in ALL his lives performances...

Anyway still thinking they both are excellent...AND Friedman musical sense and original creativity is just unique. 8)

Does that mean that no musician can ever play ANY piece of music better than the original composer? No singer can ever sing a song better than the lyric writer?

[ChunkyMunky]

There is no musician on earth, imo, who can play a solo better (I mean with more feeling) than the one who wrote it, because this is not his story, it's the story of the one who built it with his own particular feeling at a particular moment. You can understand it of course and reproduce it if you are good enough (but reproducing Friedman solos, is not a chance given to tons of guitarist, at least for me) but you could never play it better (or tell the story better) cause you haven't the background of the story...

The only one thing I wanted to spot on is in a particular moment on this solo starting in the broderick performance at 0'34 while galopping up the neck, each note played is the one on the CD with the same eveness and fluidity, and I found it incredible, I have never heard that before, even when Friedman himself played it in ALL his lives performances...

Anyway still thinking they both are excellent...AND Friedman musical sense and original creativity is just unique. 8)

All along the Watchtower spring to mind?

[noodleplugerine]

There is no musician on earth, imo, who can play a solo better (I mean with more feeling) than the one who wrote it, because this is not his story, it's the story of the one who built it with his own particular feeling at a particular moment. You can understand it of course and reproduce it if you are good enough (but reproducing Friedman solos, is not a chance given to tons of guitarist, at least for me) but you could never play it better (or tell the story better) cause you haven't the background of the story...

The only one thing I wanted to spot on is in a particular moment on this solo starting in the broderick performance at 0'34 while galopping up the neck, each note played is the one on the CD with the same eveness and fluidity, and I found it incredible, I have never heard that before, even when Friedman himself played it in ALL his lives performances...

Anyway still thinking they both are excellent...AND Friedman musical sense and original creativity is just unique. 8)

All along the Watchtower spring to mind?

I've allways preferred the dylan version :s

[Dr. Vic]

Does that mean that no musician can ever play ANY piece of music better than the original composer? No singer can ever sing a song better than the lyric writer?

Hum..really interesting question... depending on what you call better, I suppose

All along the Watchtower spring to mind?

 :lol: A new topic topic on hendrix vs Friedman, you think really a good idea ? :lol: