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Dr. Vic

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Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« on: March 09, 2009, 06:26:38 PM »

Seen Mustaine reporting recently from the Priest Feast Tour :

"Anyway, as y'all know, Chris Broderick turned 39 yesterday, and I am so proud of this guy. I mean, I watch him play on stage and everyday he gets better and better. We are aware of the reviews, and we still are trying to have a perfect show, so if you think that you have seen a good one, just wait until he starts to feel 100% and then after that, once I start to feel we are at 100%. I am going on record and I am saying unequivocally that Chris is THE BEST GUITARIST Megadeth has ever had."
Dave Mustaine, March 7, 2009 at www.megadeth.com

And knowing about the ability of the man to pay compliments to someone, this is quite a very rare event !
Worth mentioning it ! :mrgreen:


Already heard back from this on the topic called "Broderick" :  :)

when i saw them with broderick i must say he is an outstanding player possibly better technically and when it comes to speed but when it comes to feel and phrasing he has nothing on friedman

we still have to wait to see what his writing in megadeth is like though


As for me I think both Friedman and Broderick are highly talented musician who have succeded in building an awesome technical level WHILE developping their own huge musical sensivity (which is not of course the case of all the many shreeders around...)

Maybe we can say that Friedman might have little more original creativity, but nothing really demonstrative at the moment. As you said, the next Megadeth album will probably will help to build a more constructive opinion to see if Broderick can add some more... 8)

To me Chris Poland is also a great guitarist. But the one who really raised Megadeth to his master level was (and will probably remain Friedman). Therefore I prefer Friedman and Broderick over Poland (and of course over Young, Pitrelli and Drover)..

What do you guys think ?
 


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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2009, 06:52:20 PM »
Freidman by a mile IMHO

Broderick may have played Marty's solos fantastically well live (& if anything, actually made them better) but Marty was the guitarist who came up with them in the first place.

It's 19 years since Rust In Peace came out (probably before some posters here were even born :lol:) & it's easy to forget just how jaw dropping the solos on that record actually were.  Perhaps if Broderick plays something truly mind blowing of his own on the next 'Deth record, I might change my opinion, but he'll have to come up with something pretty damned special....
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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 07:08:51 PM »
Freidman by a mile IMHO

Broderick may have played Marty's solos fantastically well live (& if anything, actually made them better) but Marty was the guitarist who came up with them in the first place.

It's 19 years since Rust In Peace came out (probably before some posters here were even born :lol:) & it's easy to forget just how jaw dropping the solos on that record actually were.  Perhaps if Broderick plays something truly mind blowing of his own on the next 'Deth record, I might change my opinion, but he'll have to come up with something pretty damned special....

You beat me to it! :P

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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 07:35:39 PM »
Freidman by a mile IMHO

Broderick may have played Marty's solos fantastically well live (& if anything, actually made them better) but

Nice to see you there. I remember you saying on this place that Broderick gives "a little something more" to friedman leads, and I just agree with that and with what you said above.

AND let's illustrate it with the following videos ! If you want, just for fun, to see how the last megadeth guitarists dealed with the solo of Tornado, then here it is :

Chris Broderick :  (precise and solid as a rock)   :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jBJUUogVyU&feature=related

Marty Friedman  (with the feeling « of that time » with my beloved Rhoads...):  8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5cdMwWWV4o&feature=related

Marty Friedman (with a more clearer sound AND with Paul Gilbert !)  :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wCsDnumbSo&feature=related

Al Pitrelli (Rude awakening video) - I like his feeling but is that enough ?  :?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTOcRmJM4dQ&feature=related

Glen Drover (That one night video) - really dislike his playing ! :x
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsxRxFy2lPo&feature=related


Even if it was one of Friedman's solo (more easy for him to master his own work), I think Broderick is, in the live, more close to the-note-by-note-of-the-CD than Friedman imo (especially in the part starting in his performance at 0'34), and course far more closer to the original solo than the 2 others ones...)

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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2009, 08:09:02 PM »
I can't comment on Broderick until I hear him on record and see what he contributes to the songs.  I couldn't give two hoots about his technical ability.

I think Friedman is a very, very special player who made a massive difference to Megadeth - despite Mustaine's total dominance of the band.  Just listen how inadequate the albums with Drover, Young and Pitrelli are in comparison.

I like Poland too, he has a great individual style, but I don't think he contributed as much to the band (the drugs probably didn't help...).
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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2009, 08:13:37 PM »
Marty Friedman  (with the feeling « of that time » with my beloved Rhoads...):  8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5cdMwWWV4o&feature=related
:o :o :o I was actually at that show! (they played 2 nights at Hammersmith & I went to both of 'em, so whichever one it was, I was there :))

Going off topic somewhat, but at the time Marty had 4 Jacksons: that Rhoads Original, 22 & 24 fret Kelly, but most interestingly a japan-made Firebird prototype sig model with HSS & Floyd (never got off the ground partly because Marty never really liked the Floyd).  Either he sold it or it got stolen, but it turned up at a small guitar shop in London.  I had the chance to buy it for £749 and DIDN'T FV£%!^& DO IT!!!!  :( :oops: :x :roll: :lol:  I've always regretted that....
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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2009, 08:40:57 PM »
Technically - Broderick

But Friedman came up with them and has a very unique style that i love.

Saying that though Chris Poland who played on Peace Sells also has great lead playing which i love so i'm torn between Poland and Friedman.
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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2009, 10:28:28 PM »
Going off topic somewhat, but at the time Marty had 4 Jacksons: that Rhoads Original, 22 & 24 fret Kelly, but most interestingly a japan-made Firebird prototype sig model with HSS & Floyd (never got off the ground partly because Marty never really liked the Floyd).  Either he sold it or it got stolen, but it turned up at a small guitar shop in London.  I had the chance to buy it for £749 and DIDN'T FV£%!^& DO IT!!!!  :( :oops: :x :roll: :lol:  I've always regretted that....

Oh...and are you Ok, I mean, life didn't become too hard since that ?  :cry: :roll:


I like Poland too, he has a great individual style, but I don't think he contributed as much to the band (the drugs probably didn't help...).

I also heard that he had stolen one of Mustaine's guitar...back in those days.. I guess this hadn't helped too to build a long career with Megadeth.   :gib:  :lol: 

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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2009, 11:58:19 PM »
Freidman by a mile IMHO

Broderick may have played Marty's solos fantastically well live (& if anything, actually made them better) but Marty was the guitarist who came up with them in the first place.

It's 19 years since Rust In Peace came out (probably before some posters here were even born :lol:) & it's easy to forget just how jaw dropping the solos on that record actually were.  Perhaps if Broderick plays something truly mind blowing of his own on the next 'Deth record, I might change my opinion, but he'll have to come up with something pretty damned special....

+1

broderick is a phenomenal player. Glen Drover was pretty awesome too, he nailed the solos note for note when i saw them (as did broderick, when i could hear his solos, anyway :lol: ). But friedman is THE MAN. :)

btw, doesn't mustaine say that about every new megadeth lead guitarist? :lol:

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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2009, 12:26:42 AM »
Mustaine is a douche. End of that topic  PDT_004

Here's an idea for you guys then, would Chris Broderick be better than the guy who defined Megadeth at it's most epic? (Rust in peace album). And yes I agree with you guys who think Broderick is technically better.

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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2009, 02:37:47 AM »
It dosen't matter who is better as long as Chris keeps Megadeth relevant we will all have opportunity to see and hear a monster of the wire and wood.

Dave may be a douch bag but his band is good and has put out some great tunes, and Chris is the man for the job and the guitarist who could take Megadeth to the next level.
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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2009, 03:21:34 AM »
i see two problems :
1 - Mustaine is a dictator
Thats why they have so many Line Ups.
2 - chris broderick is AN AWESOME guitarrist. FOR SURE. i loved his two hands and sweeps
but, for me, he do not possess the CHARISMA friedman Has or HAD.. Plus, he doesnt have the SAME Feeling.

any thought on my words?
LETS discuss this
q:)

I love megadeth, but my favorite alguns are only two : Rust in Peace and Countdown to Extinction(even with the cr@ppy guitar tones)
and i think the new album is Good enough. ill buy it
i LOVED The guitar tones there.

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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2009, 01:00:38 PM »
i see two problems :
1 - Mustaine is a dictator

 :lol: does anyone doubt that ? I guess you speak the thruth here...let's add I read Mustaine in an interview saying that he loved learning Megadeth songs to new guitarists, and that Chris was really "teacheable" and that "he couln't ask for more".
You can read it here http://www.megadeth.com/popups/revolver0209.html  :mrgreen:



But there should be another reason.....As I said Mustaine doesn't pay compliment so often....Let's see :


when i saw them with broderick i must say he is an outstanding player possibly better technically and when it comes to speed but when it comes to feel and phrasing he has nothing on friedman
we still have to wait to see what his writing in megadeth is like though

As you said, the next Megadeth album will probably will help to build a more constructive opinion to see if Broderick can add some more... 8)

Perhaps if Broderick plays something truly mind blowing of his own on the next 'Deth record, I might change my opinion, but he'll have to come up with something pretty damned special....

I can't comment on Broderick until I hear him on record and see what he contributes to the songs

and Chris is the man for the job and the guitarist who could take Megadeth to the next level.


..... :idea: Didn't mustaine said that just to put some more pressure as they are finalizing their new record, cause now everybody is awaiting for a Rust-in-Peace-on-steroids, which just cannot happen...

Rust in Peace is and will remain the-state-of-the-art speed metal album..., imo.
The alchemy between unique Friedman's style and musical creativity linked to Mustaine's raw top the line rythm motions (with thousand of stunning riffs per songs) was so perfect and there is no other album to compare seriously to this monument.   
Agree about the cr@oppy guitar tone though...






i see two problems :
2 - chris broderick is AN AWESOME guitarrist. FOR SURE. i loved his two hands and sweeps
but, for me, he do not possess the CHARISMA friedman Has or HAD.. Plus, he doesnt have the SAME Feeling.

This can be one of the reason why Mustaine said Chris was the best megadeth guitarist, because it might not have been the same story with Friedman...I think that Mustaine was just fed up to take lessons from Friedman  :lol:

More seriously I think that the musical influence of Friedman took a too much important place in Megadeth, especially at the end, in the Risk album, which didn't suit Mustaine at all (and maybe the fans). I remember him saying he just couldn't stand hear Friedman playing anymore while recording this album.... (But we all agree Risk bad success is not 'because' of Friedman playing...)


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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2009, 01:42:27 PM »
Glen Drover was pretty awesome too, he nailed the solos note for note when i saw them (as did broderick, when i could hear his solos, anyway :lol: ).

Sorry for the bad video quality of Broderick, it's quite hard to find something better around. But if you have something more relevant to show us, send it to us !!

I really had a dislike with Drover playing. I really didn't like his style and musical vibe of his own solos + he was too far away from the note to note solos of Friedman !.  :roll:
I think his playing on the video above is the most approximative one (with lots of shortcuts), compared to Broderick and even Pitrelli. When you look at some live videos (these ones and the ones you like best) it is quite significant, imo of course....  :P

   

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Re: Broderick : Best Megadeth guitarist ?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2009, 04:33:11 PM »
I saw megadeth with drover twice and HATED his solos

he made every solo sound like he had wrote it, which would normally be good but i HATE his style of writing its just too i dont know fluid everything seems to mush together plus i hate how he ALWAYS played witht he neck pup.

I was so glad when i found out drover had left