Enslaved Primordial pickup question

[aethyria]

Hi I want to put some bare knuckle pickups into a 7 string mahogany neck through guitar.

I want to have the same tone as the Irish black metal band Primordial I notice they use SG guitars but I do not know if they use stock pickups or not.

Another band that has a similar tone is the Norwegian band Enslaved they also appear to use SG's but once again I am unsure what kind of pickups they are using...

It is possible that both bands are using stock or even vintage Gibson pickups...

Which Bareknuckle pickups would be a close match to these bands?

[aethyria]

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I will be playing it into an ENGL Ritchie Blackmore AMP, has anyone tried that amp with Bare knuckles?

[Zaned]

I use an ENGL Blackmore with BKP pickups. Two BKP-equipped guitars: a PRS McCarty with Cold sweat set and a vintage style strat (LQG -brand, built by a finnish luthier Lassi Nurmi) with BKP 'No. 1' set.

Works wonderfully! I'm not familiar with those bands, maybe someone else is. I did a quick listen with youtube though. Maybe Miracle man?

Do you mean that your guitar has a mahogany neck, or wings of mahogany? Or both? If it's all mahogany, there has been discussions on this forum that with mahogany, you should either get low output OR high output, somewhere in the middle it seems to get lost..

-Zaned

[aethyria]

Mahogany neck and wings 7 string carvin fixed bridge

[aethyria]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIdygkphYPk

Here is a link to some primordial...

Although they are an extreme metal band I think they are using a more vintage setup and are just pushing them hard.

I don't think they are using very hot pickups but I could be wrong. Their SG's don't look like they have been modified.

[dheim]

i think they used stock Gibson pickups... anyway Cold Sweats are perfect for Enslaved, in my opinion.

[nfe]

Primordial are all stock gear I believe. I'd suspect Enslaved are too.

[aethyria]

Yeah, I thought they were using stock Gibson pickups...


Would the Abraxas be a good match for this tone? or is the cold sweet a better match?
After reading everything in the product descriptions I was leaning toward the mule and the abraxas but I have no idea what would work best and have no experience with bare knuckle pickups...Most of my guitars are loaded with very hot dimarzios...like the X2N and the D-activators and I love them plenty but I wanted something more vintage on this next guitar

[dheim]

i've got no experience with the abraxas... anyway i don't know why but many say that hot-vintage pickups don't work too well in SGs. in the contemporary range i'd say cold sweat for sure, they have an almost vintage voice and they've got great sharpness and clarity... so they're perfect for the sound of enslaved. if i'm not wrong they're voiced after ceramic gibson pickups - only better - so they should be similar to the real thing... only better!

[aethyria]

Your Description of the Cold Sweet sounds cool...I was hoping for something alnico because all my other pickups are ceramic and very hot...You described the pickup as having a vintage tone and I always mentally associated that with alnico instead of ceramic...but I have only tried maybe 10 different pickups so far and can't say I am an expert.

I currently have one guitar loaded with Dimarzio X2N and Super 2 and a 7 string loaded with D-Activators.
I love the above pickups but I really want this next guitar to sound very vintage but I intend on using it to play metal.

Is the Cold sweet extremely bright? I ask because I mainly only play neck through body guitars and they tend to be a little bit bright but I always get them with mahogany necks and bodies.

I really want to try for a vintage Gibson tone and  I know I will not be able to get it exactly since I will be playing a 7 string neck through body guitar but I figure I will try to get as close as I can. I want more of a primordial tone then say enslaved...they sound similar but enslaved are brighter and thinner and primordial are thicker this may be due to EQ because the general tone is very similar between the two bands.

[dheim]

no, they're not too bright, they're just very, VERY articulated... you can play full chords and still hear every single note and every subtle harmonic variation, even with heavy gain. they're not exactly vintage, but maybe the closest in the contemporary section... i know it's not the kind of sound you're after, but you can hear some CS tone here:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16280.0

[aethyria]

dheim

Hey man, I am a huge Paradise lost fan I grew up on that stuff as well...cool clips man I can't believe how damn close you nailed the paradise lost tone on that clip. The leads and rhythms are spot on paradise lost tone. Great song man, the clips seems to be more of a holy diver sample though. you must be around the same age as me, I am 33. I actually bought Paradise Lost Gothic on Vinyl when it came out, I also love middle period PL but the later stuff got really weak.

I am also surprised you got such a good tone from the POD Xt...I have one as well after $%&#ing around with it I broke down and bought a Engl blackmore amp because I got so sick of damn pod XT fizz..

Here is a clip of me playing my 6 string carvin with X2N and my POD XT Live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnIHjlpOgBI

[aethyria]

Do you have any idea what would be good for an Ophthalamia - Via Dolorosa  tone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FPKCC0H0Qo

Above is a clip from that album. I love the guitar tone. Once again this band also has a very vintage kind of tone but they play extreme metal. They have a very Sabbath tone, I bet they are using SG's as well.

or better yet check out the song  "slowly passing the frostlands" it is the first track on their myspace mp3 song list check it out below. I love this song it rules.

http://www.myspace.com/ophthalamia

[aethyria]

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Anyone know how vintage (70's) a metal tone you can get with Nailbombs?

And anyone know how metal you can get a set black dogs to go?

[dheim]

nailbombs in my opinion sound very modern, but they're very versatile, and can be used almost for everything... for a true vintage sound i'd choose something else, though...