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Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« on: April 04, 2009, 06:46:21 PM »
Apols. if some of this stuff has been covered before. I found it interesting how the new modern pauls are kept lighter.

Weight relieved



Chambered - $%&# me you're buying more air than you are guitar!



Also the difference between long and short neck tenons.


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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 07:03:48 PM »
That chambered BFG (or whatever it is) probably has less solid wood than my 339!  You'd think they'd be incredibly light - but they're not.
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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 07:29:06 PM »

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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 08:01:02 PM »
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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 08:54:58 PM »
The 2008 Lesp Paul is chambered and is very light, lighter than a strat, so it could well be a 2008 body in that pic.
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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 09:45:19 PM »
The 2008 Lesp Paul is chambered and is very light, lighter than a strat, so it could well be a 2008 body in that pic.
P90 in the neck, the observations of Phil. So it is probably a BFG.
In 2007 they changed all USA standard factory to chambered I think, but it didn't go down too well, and some went back.
Although I think in 2007 it was even more hollow, there was no ring of wood around the control cavity. ie you could drop a penny into the backplate and could get it to rattle in the bottom horn as well as all the way around to the top horn (If I am making sense? :P )

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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 09:57:46 PM »
the top two are normal les paul weight relief holes

middle is definatly a chambered BFG

The last is a Supreme - they get a carved maple back and all wiring is fed in through that extra large jack socket

you can see the weight relief isnt really something that has a massive tonal impact - although it does have some.  there is no real loss of stiffness in the mahogany body and it vibrates in a very similar to way to a solid body.  the chambered ones are very different

what you cant see on the BFg is the patented 'Toneflakes'  they leave in the chambers ;)

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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 10:03:25 PM »
what you cant see on the BFg is the patented 'Toneflakes'  they leave in the chambers ;)

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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 10:42:24 PM »
what you cant see on the BFg is the patented 'Toneflakes'  they leave in the chambers ;)

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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 11:13:04 PM »
Be fun to make one with lead in the weight relief holes - just so you can ask a mate to get your guitar for you and watch him get a hernia !! :lol:

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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2009, 01:36:15 AM »
I have owned them all-what I like about my swiss cheese standard is the ability to achieve feedback-the cool, controlled feedback/Nugent style stuff....very resonant ..find the sweet spot and weeeeeee!!!not as bottom heavy as,say, my old pancake Custom, but I really dig the lively feel it has 8)
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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2009, 09:21:30 AM »
I love my chambered LP Studio Vintage Mahogany.

Zingy and resonant. And lighter!  :D

In fact, I'd be reluctant to have an all-solid LP type guitar now, unless it was made with very special wood.
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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 09:25:18 AM »
Have A Chambered Guild Bluesbird...don't think as drastic as one of the LP mentioned..but great sound...and still is far from light
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Re: Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 10:47:30 AM »
The weight relief was done because they couldn't find light weigh mahogany anymore.

Many people thought they had light weight mahogany Les Paul but it was actually a weight relief Les Paul. They never told anyone when they started this, what I would call, SCAM.

If you want a chambered Les Paul, buy a Gretsch Jet.


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