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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2009, 04:43:43 PM »
Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.

Tuned to what?

I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.

Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune  :(

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2009, 05:27:02 PM »
Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.

Tuned to what?

I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.

Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune  :(

C/Drop A#

Was on 12 15 20 32 48 64, so the wound sides not gonna be too far off for you. The set that I got would probably be OK for you.
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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2009, 05:29:33 PM »
Cool, I'll ring them come pay day and see what's what. Cheers.

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2009, 05:32:10 PM »
Cool, I'll ring them come pay day and see what's what. Cheers.

Yer welcome.

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2009, 12:45:05 AM »
Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.

Tuned to what?

I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.

Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune  :(

C/Drop A#

Was on 12 15 20 32 48 64, so the wound sides not gonna be too far off for you. The set that I got would probably be OK for you.


your 48 makes no sense to me unless you switch between drop A# and C all the time

using my favourite tension calculator, the tensions should be something like

len 25.5"

C     .012" PL == 6.67kg
G,    .015" PL == 5.85kg
^D,   .020" pl == 6.55kg
^A,,  .032" nw == 8.03kg
F,,   .048" nw == 9.64kg
^A,,, .064" nw == 7.78kg
total == 44.53kg


ok I dunno how exact these figures are and whatever works and feels right for you, a .064" in C is 11kgs of tension though!!! personally I tune to C standard with 11, 15, 18, 32, 44, 59

are these newtones easier to play or is it just a tone thing? I'm guessing there is less pick scratch since the winds are finer

nfe how do you bend 13s?!!!!
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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2009, 12:53:13 AM »
Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.

Tuned to what?

I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.

Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune  :(

C/Drop A#

Was on 12 15 20 32 48 64, so the wound sides not gonna be too far off for you. The set that I got would probably be OK for you.


your 48 makes no sense to me, using my favourite tension calculator, the tensions should be something like
len 25.5"

C     .012" PL == 6.67kg
G,    .015" PL == 5.85kg
^D,   .020" pl == 6.55kg
^A,,  .032" nw == 8.03kg
F,,   .048" nw == 9.64kg
^A,,, .064" nw == 7.78kg
total == 44.53kg


ok I dunno how exact these figures are and whatever works and feels right for you, personally I tune to C standard with 11, 15, 18, 32, 44, 59

are these newtones easier to play or is it just a tone thing? I'm guessing there is less pick scratch since the winds are finer

nfe how do you bend 13s?!!!!

With man's fingers  8)

Nah, I dunno  :lol:, I don't find it an issue, but I've always played with pretty heavy strings even in standard tuning. the 26w took a bit getting used to on the G when I first started using them though. Not a big issue now, but I did find myself bending flat a lot when I was playing "tried and tested" licks to start with, y'know?

I find in that tuning if I play with thinner unwound strings I end up with sweeps being sloppy as hell and bend a fourth if I'm not paying attention  :lol:

I've emailed Newtone so we'll see what they recommend and hopefully I can get away with a bit thinner so I can get some extra sparkle.

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2009, 07:20:08 AM »
Oh thats the hex core nickel wound ones, btw. I got 4 sets of 12, 15, 20p, 32, 42, 55 - two round cored and two hex cored. Havent tried the round cored yet.

Tuned to what?

I'm in C and I currently use 13, 17, 26, 36, 46, 59 D'addario nickle wounds and still don't have the tension I'd like on the low C nor the brightness or clarity I'd like.

Maybe I'll give these cats a ring, though compared to what I normally pay for strings, they're gonna cost me a fortune  :(

C/Drop A#

Was on 12 15 20 32 48 64, so the wound sides not gonna be too far off for you. The set that I got would probably be OK for you.


your 48 makes no sense to me unless you switch between drop A# and C all the time

using my favourite tension calculator, the tensions should be something like

len 25.5"

C     .012" PL == 6.67kg
G,    .015" PL == 5.85kg
^D,   .020" pl == 6.55kg
^A,,  .032" nw == 8.03kg
F,,   .048" nw == 9.64kg
^A,,, .064" nw == 7.78kg
total == 44.53kg


ok I dunno how exact these figures are and whatever works and feels right for you, a .064" in C is 11kgs of tension though!!! personally I tune to C standard with 11, 15, 18, 32, 44, 59

are these newtones easier to play or is it just a tone thing? I'm guessing there is less pick scratch since the winds are finer

nfe how do you bend 13s?!!!!

Dont care what youre calculator said - it felt right. Sort of. And yes, a 64 in C is pretty tight.

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2009, 09:56:13 AM »
Oh, and they're easier to play than the heavier guage. Theyre slacker though. But being smaller also helps the playability, I think.

Theres more pick attack to them - the string grips the pick better than the diaddarios, they carry higher frequencies better, I'm not sure the diameter of the wind has anything to do with pick attack (doubly so since theres plenty of pick attack to plain strings), and they dont have the boominess in the lows overpowering everything that the really big diaddarios did. (but havent lost anything, or very much at least, in low end magnitude, its just less boomy).

One odd thing - the 55 in my newtone sets are narrower than the 48s in my diaddario sets. Dunno whats going on there.

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2009, 08:04:39 PM »
I worked out the tension for C# not C doh!!! so a 0.064" in C is 9.8kg of tension not 11kg, makes a lot more sense now!

pretty much the same as me up tuning a semitone, it just looks more as a figure than by feel

I do find it mildly amusing that you, me and nfe are all in magical C... apart from when you drop tune

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2009, 09:49:59 AM »
I worked out the tension for C# not C doh!!! so a 0.064" in C is 9.8kg of tension not 11kg, makes a lot more sense now!

pretty much the same as me up tuning a semitone, it just looks more as a figure than by feel

I do find it mildly amusing that you, me and nfe are all in magical C... apart from when you drop tune

Magic roundabout C more like ;)

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2009, 10:20:24 AM »
I'm in drop A# most of the time anyway.

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2009, 04:19:20 PM »
drop tuning is for lazy people! :P

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2009, 04:38:48 PM »
drop tuning is for lazy people! :P

And metal is for sloppy players!

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2009, 06:00:50 PM »
drop tuning is for lazy people! :P

Tell that to paul ryan and dallas toler wade :P

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Re: Anyone tried 'Newtone' strings?
« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2009, 07:21:49 PM »
drop tuning is for lazy people! :P

Tell that to paul ryan and dallas toler wade :P

Paul was in Cradle of Filth though, so he must be looked down upon. :P