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MDV

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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #90 on: April 17, 2009, 05:44:33 PM »
Whats the error bar on the final atom locations in each axis?

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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #91 on: April 17, 2009, 05:51:38 PM »
So what we find is most forum users have more gas than brains *L*

Going a long way back all the guitars I own I play...and my partner she's taken up the drums....just got to persuade her to play in what she calls "the Dad Band"
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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #92 on: April 17, 2009, 06:30:44 PM »
Phew, a 7 page thread in a day  :lol: Bradock surely knows how to do it.

Well, to answer the actual topic, it's a B with the occasional D thrown in.

I have 2 electrics at the moment, a vintage-style strat built by a finnish luthier, and a PRS McCarty. Both are equipped with BKP pickups. Both pickup upgrades were carefully thought and ended up great!
And then I have a beat-up acoustic that used to belong to my father, he bought it in the eighties. It was the guitar I played for the first year or so, and still play a lot.

And what I WANT

1) a superstrat with a non-locking but modern bridge (being built)
2) a nice LP
3) a guitar with a locking trem (most probably floyd)
4) a tele
5) a semi-acoustic
6) another steel string acoustic
7) a 7-string
8) a guitar with P90's, like an LP junior

But then again, I might for example want 2 LPs. One more modern and one more vintage :) Say Miracle Man vs. The Mule. And a maple-board strat, etc..

The beauty is that each guitar is unique. You never know what you're gonna find when you go into a music store! Sometimes you just connect with a guitar. A pleasure for me, a possible torment for my wallet.

Walking into a music store is doubly more dangerous if I'm in a hangover.

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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #93 on: April 17, 2009, 06:42:38 PM »
Whats the error bar on the final atom locations in each axis?

That's not quite how we measure errors or overfitting, although technically it can be calculated, but typically as an average over the whole protein (and you'll have greater coordinate error at the surfaces of the protein due to multiple conformations within the crystal (if there are only 2 or 3, these can usually be defined, if there are more, the density is too 'smeared out').

Instead we use R factors and Rfree - Rfree is the same as the Rfact, but is calculated on a (typically 5%, but more if there isn't much data) subset of the dataset which is completely excluded from refinement, and is only ever used to calculate Rfree. Naturally, this reduces the number of observations used during refinement, but does allow a good indicator of overfitting to be calculated! In this case, the Rfact and Rfree values for that model were pretty good, but I don't have the exact data to hand to show you that (although that structure was one we published earlier this year).

I think I might have epic failed as much as Afghan Dave did earlier :D

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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #94 on: April 17, 2009, 06:45:04 PM »
Dont you need a pre-existing reference to fit R values to?

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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #95 on: April 17, 2009, 07:35:29 PM »
I have a guitar for each of the different places that I live, lol. Makes sense...
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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #96 on: April 17, 2009, 08:05:49 PM »
Dear Mr Three.Letter.Acronym...

Please refer to the following televised debate which fully encapsulates what I believe to be the quality of your argument so far...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nCKYEM8qRc


(This has been working up to my posting this so I hope you enjoy it. I miss comedy like this.)




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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #97 on: April 17, 2009, 08:21:08 PM »
Dear Mr Three.Letter.Acronym...

Please refer to the following televised debate which fully encapsulates what I believe to be the quality of your argument so far...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nCKYEM8qRc


(This has been working up to my posting this so I hope you enjoy it. I miss comedy like this.)






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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #98 on: April 17, 2009, 08:21:25 PM »
Dear Mr Three.Letter.Acronym...

Please refer to the following televised debate which fully encapsulates what I believe to be the quality of your argument so far...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nCKYEM8qRc


(This has been working up to my posting this so I hope you enjoy it. I miss comedy like this.)






:lol::lol::lol:

See that this previously telvised debate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

Thats you that is.


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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #99 on: April 17, 2009, 08:21:57 PM »
Mostly A

I have 9 so far but try to keep additions down to 1 per year (2 if the price is low).
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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #100 on: April 17, 2009, 08:52:09 PM »
Dear Mr Three.Letter.Acronym...

Please refer to the following televised debate which fully encapsulates what I believe to be the quality of your argument so far...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nCKYEM8qRc


(This has been working up to my posting this so I hope you enjoy it. I miss comedy like this.)






:lol::lol::lol:

See that this previously telvised debate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

Thats you that is.



 :lol:

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Mule, MQ, Stockholm, CS, RY, MM, PK, ANB, CNB, AWP, CWP, PiG90...

too many? ;)

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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #101 on: April 17, 2009, 10:11:55 PM »
Trying to keep this post on topic is like trying to bob for fish which is considerably more difficult than bobbing for apples which is much harder than buying apples at a supermarket.

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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #102 on: April 17, 2009, 10:30:18 PM »
GAS is always around the corner with guitar players. me and my friends have these gear lists which are pages long and contains everything from guitars, amps, cabs, effects, cables, tuners, strings, pickups, bridges, etc it is insane.

the answer to your question is: --> you can never have enough guitars because there will always be something new which you just have to try.


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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #103 on: April 17, 2009, 11:23:51 PM »
The question wasn't aimed at GAS as a bad thing there was no limit put on the number of guitars someone may need the need was meant to relate to the number of genuinly different guitars wou have to have to give you all the playing styles you want to play and how many guitars are there for some other reason. So someone may need 3 LPs one with bluesy pickups, one with a vintage tone and one contemporary to cover a range of styles they may also need a heavy metal jackson etc. Having got this range it is perfectly legitimate to improve one for a better tone or closer simulacrum.

Some people will be happy with the approximations to tone they can get with a single guitar and digital emulators or effects where others are not. So the question goes back to how many do you need to play what you want to play.

I could have asked another question with a similar feel which is how many of the guitars you own have significantly different tone or are significantly different to play. Or how many guitars can you group into genre clusters.

Some one with 11 guitars - an acoustic, a semi acoustic, a classical, a flamenco, a strat style heavy, a strat style 50s, a metal master, a vintage LP, contemporary LP, a super strat with trem, a tele

Would not classify the same as someone with 11 strats in different colours.

/Ontopic

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Re: How many do you need?
« Reply #104 on: April 18, 2009, 12:24:59 AM »
The question wasn't aimed at GAS as a bad thing there was no limit put on the number of guitars someone may need the need was meant to relate to the number of genuinly different guitars wou have to have to give you all the playing styles you want to play and how many guitars are there for some other reason. So someone may need 3 LPs one with bluesy pickups, one with a vintage tone and one contemporary to cover a range of styles they may also need a heavy metal jackson etc. Having got this range it is perfectly legitimate to improve one for a better tone or closer simulacrum.

Some people will be happy with the approximations to tone they can get with a single guitar and digital emulators or effects where others are not. So the question goes back to how many do you need to play what you want to play.

I could have asked another question with a similar feel which is how many of the guitars you own have significantly different tone or are significantly different to play. Or how many guitars can you group into genre clusters.

Some one with 11 guitars - an acoustic, a semi acoustic, a classical, a flamenco, a strat style heavy, a strat style 50s, a metal master, a vintage LP, contemporary LP, a super strat with trem, a tele

Would not classify the same as someone with 11 strats in different colours.

/Ontopic
actually I have 13 strats:
1957 White maple neck - Apaches
1957 Sunburst Bravewood - a copy of my real 57 so that I can play it out and it has a slightly wider nut and A5 Apaches*
1957 Sunburst reissue - 1969 original fender pickups
1961 White Slab board - 2 original pickups - 1 BKP AV Apache
1963 Burgandy Mist - all original
1964 Fiesta Red Bravewood - HSS RY & 2 Mothers Milks
Shell Pink Hardtail - Pau Ferro fingerboard - BK 1962 Strat set **
Black HSS - Ebony fingerboard - HSS Stormy Monday & 2 Sultans
White - Aframosia Neck - Apache set with baseplates
Sunburst Wenge/Bloodwood neck - large headstock - BK 69 Strat set **
Flamed Redwood rear cavity warmoth with half scalloped ebony fingerboard - HSS - Holy Diver & 2 Trilogy Suites
Sunburst Rosewood board HH - will have VHII's soon
hollow quilted maple, maple neck, lh neck pickup slant, reverse vintage stagger Irish Tours

* due next month
** waiting for these pickups to arrive.

I put the colurs in to show that I do have some the same :)

They all play differently, sound very different, make me play in a slightly different style and are suited for different styles of music (though I admit on this there is quite a lot of crossover).  Do I need all of them - probably not, but I want all of them and I would miss one if I sold it.  I don't have kids and I was able to buy the guitars I wanted at decent prices, so they've all come along over the years.  However several people on the forum have played them and I am sure they will say the same as I do, they all play differently and sound different.
So many pickups, so little time