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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2009, 10:26:06 PM »
i must admit i thought krank were a budget brand aimed at teenagers.  Thats just what the aesthetics suggested to me.     

 :lol: :lol:

They won't like that, I feel a bit guilty for laughing, but I do know what you mean.

it's a lot of judging-a-book-by-it's-cover'ing.

i see people doing this every time i go in a book shop. they keep picking them up, looking at the front, then the back.  some they put back, some they buy... very few seem to actually read the book before buying :?    

I can't decide if you're being serious or taking the piss out of the phrase "judging a book by its cover".  :?  :P

Yes I always go to the library to read the book before I buy it, then when I go in the shop pick it up I know it's a good book and I take it to the till where I leave it on the counter "oops sorry I've read that one"!!!

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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2009, 01:54:50 AM »
There's an old man wandering around soiling his underwear, drooling, walking in circles called .. this thread!

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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2009, 05:46:40 AM »
Sorry in advance for threadnomancy but..

A new interview with Wilton detailing all his recording and touring gear and not a single mention of KRANK -

Funny but he seems to use every other amp apart from KRANK!

Check it out...

...."So anyway, the most expedient way we could get things done when it came to the recording process was, I just set up seven amps and used a JD7 which is made by Radial Engineering, and which allowed me to run the seven amps all at the same time. I had everything from a Marshall Jubilee, a Hughes & Kettner, a Fender Reverb, a Matchless…I had a whole gamut of different sounds along with some Marshall cabs and Hughes & Kettner cabs. And I just miked each one and each situation in the room. So we had seven auxiliaries going into the board. I would be playing in the control room and Kelly Gray, who engineered the album, he’d be sitting there moving the aux levels up and down until we got the sound we wanted for whatever song we were working on.

So you’d blend the different amp tones for each track?

Yeah that is right. Like I’d have the Hughes & Kettner on the super high gain and the Marshalls would be like, on a high mid punch and all that and I would just sculpture my sounds in that way. I had the Fender Twin Reverb and the Matchless for my clean tones. Then I added a little flange and chorus to the mix on the clean stuff and boom, you’ve got the Queensryche sound!"


http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/queensryche_we_are_just_a_process_that_keeps_evolving.html
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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2009, 07:50:33 AM »
for me personally i think krank amps sound very poor for the money. but thats just one mans opinion.

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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2009, 05:17:03 PM »
I wouldn't admit to playing them either - they sound shite  :lol:

Sorry in advance for threadnomancy but..

A new interview with Wilton detailing all his recording and touring gear and not a single mention of KRANK -

Funny but he seems to use every other amp apart from KRANK!

Check it out...

...."So anyway, the most expedient way we could get things done when it came to the recording process was, I just set up seven amps and used a JD7 which is made by Radial Engineering, and which allowed me to run the seven amps all at the same time. I had everything from a Marshall Jubilee, a Hughes & Kettner, a Fender Reverb, a Matchless…I had a whole gamut of different sounds along with some Marshall cabs and Hughes & Kettner cabs. And I just miked each one and each situation in the room. So we had seven auxiliaries going into the board. I would be playing in the control room and Kelly Gray, who engineered the album, he’d be sitting there moving the aux levels up and down until we got the sound we wanted for whatever song we were working on.

So you’d blend the different amp tones for each track?

Yeah that is right. Like I’d have the Hughes & Kettner on the super high gain and the Marshalls would be like, on a high mid punch and all that and I would just sculpture my sounds in that way. I had the Fender Twin Reverb and the Matchless for my clean tones. Then I added a little flange and chorus to the mix on the clean stuff and boom, you’ve got the Queensryche sound!"


http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/queensryche_we_are_just_a_process_that_keeps_evolving.html

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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2009, 08:00:11 PM »
From the end users ive ever heard from, it's massively weighed in the i dont like krank side... on a few forums i have posed on in the past Krank are seen as a total joke and not even taken seriously in the slightest.  If their was no dime sig.. would we even know of them??
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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2009, 08:18:19 PM »
Krank has a too aggressive endorser policy. I seriously think they give people money so they can have them on their endorsement rooster.

I love my little Krank, it is a good amp, but not a great amp.  Like a nice girlfriend with a great butt but no tits. You are happy and like to be with her, but do know that there is theoretically something much better out there.
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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2009, 08:44:40 PM »
Like a nice girlfriend with a great butt but no tits. You are happy and like to be with her, but do know that there is theoretically something much better out there.

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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2009, 09:02:15 PM »
Like a nice girlfriend with a great butt but no tits. You are happy and like to be with her, but do know that there is theoretically something much better out there.

Ah, this is such a lads' forum sometimes.  :lol:
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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #69 on: October 05, 2009, 11:43:04 PM »

I love my little Krank, it is a good amp, but not a great amp.  Like a nice girlfriend with a great butt but no tits. You are happy and like to be with her, but do know that there is theoretically something much better out there.


thats like the Swiss Tony sketch that never was, legend!!!

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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #70 on: October 05, 2009, 11:51:16 PM »
We all like modding guitars... I see no problems with an upgrade or two..





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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #71 on: October 06, 2009, 12:48:44 AM »
Like a nice girlfriend with a great butt but no tits. You are happy and like to be with her, but do know that there is theoretically something much better out there.

Ah, this is such a lads' forum sometimes.  :lol:

Well, he does have a JR.  I demoed a 20watt Rev JR Pro for a month. It was good, but the full size heads are better.
Not everyone needs or wants 120 watts. Not everyone can afford a decent attenuator, either.
I don't like any Kranks below 4 on the master, and they are much better above 5. I think this is where they get a bum rap on the internet from, you will not be happy trying to make a Revolution a bedroom amp.
I'm so glad I played a Krank before I read anything on the internet about them! Had I done much "research" on forums like this, I would have stayed 100 miles away.
I played a bunch of amps in the same room, none of them I preferred over my 5150 until I played the Krank.  I bought the Revolution Series One based alone on how it sounded.
It's funny how most guys here say "Buy the amp that sounds the best, regardless of what name is on it"
but in reality this forum is all about gear snobbery.
I love my Krank amps for how well they work in a live mix, period. I always get compliments on my tone after the show from sound crew people and other musicians who were in the audience.
If I was a bedroom player or a studio musician, maybe I would be of a different opinion regarding Krank amps.
But I play live about 150 nights a year. I think that that is what Krank gear is engineered to do, live performance, and that they excel at that task.
Don't know how many folks here would fall into the category of needing an amp for that purpose.
To me internet forums are about 99% false information anyway. "The word on the street", talking with other musicians locally and around the Southwest and Socal, Krank has a great reputation.
It's bizarre to me that they are mostly hated in chat forums yet IRL the exact opposite is true.



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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #72 on: October 06, 2009, 01:39:32 AM »
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It's funny how most guys here say "Buy the amp that sounds the best, regardless of what name is on it"
but in reality this forum is all about gear snobbery.

I don't think thats true. a lot of people here like high end/quality product. (Hence why we use BKP's). Note how i used a slash between 'high end' and 'quality'. I think there are endless discussions here about new products and attention to cost, build and features is always brought up no matter what. I mean, we have Twinfan giving us the dealio on a bunch of pedals he says are awesome for the cost... a line some of us may not know... hey i'll go check that out. Its not like people rock up and go "yo guys, i just found this sweet range of super boutique P to P wired effects and amps that cost £4000 a go, they rock!" of course some people may post stuff like that up, but then you get people saying "get at martin MJW and get him to build you the same thing for half the cost". thats just being savvy with your green. I dont think this forum is full of gear snobbery at all. just a few people who like nice things.

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play live about 150 nights a year. I think that that is what Krank gear is engineered to do, live performance, and that they excel at that task.
Don't know how many folks here would fall into the category of needing an amp for that purpose.

As for this comment... I don't know if you meant this as a straight up comment about not knowing the musical background of people here, or if you're trying to be derogatory by suggesting the large percentage of people here don't gig, and don't have a need for a tour ready amp. I think there is not only a few guys here in exactly the position to need such an amp, but I think those guys have gigged long enough, and been through enough gear to have a valid opinion. Once you you start gigging, yo tend to meet the same people and talk gear from time to time, and word gets around, and 'word on the street' can be a powerful thing. I don't think you can say people here don't gig, therefore some peoples comments are not valid about larger wattage Krank amps.

in the UK, in my opinion, you can do better for your money.
I just tried to find a UK listing but I couldnt find anything on the Sounds Great Music website or the Machinehead site, and both are meant to be Krank dealers. I searched for half an hour. they dont even have them on Thomann. I found a price for a Rev1 100watt in euro that was e1990. so thats like £1830. (i might be a bit off the mark with this)

At that price, in the UK youre in the realm of (or more expensive than...) Mesa, Bogner Uberschall's, VHT (fryette), various Splawn's, Rivera K-Tre, some Soldano, Cornford MK50 mII, in fact a few cornfords can be had for less than that. Personally, i don't think that a Rev1 can stand up to some of those amps in terms of build quality from the gut shots ive seen... im totally overlooking tone at this point but thats a serious bunch of amps to compete with.

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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #73 on: October 06, 2009, 03:13:39 AM »
OK, I meant it straight up. You guys are 5300 miles away and speak another language. I have no idea who you are.

Revolution Series One has been out of production and discontinued for almost two years, so that's a royal rip-off.
I have played half of the amps you mentioned and would consider the Rev Plus to be a peer to the higher end, and far superior to VHT, Splawn and Mesa quality-wise. Tone is subjective to the individual.

Pricing in the US:

Musicians Friend:

Krank Revolution Plus $1599

Rivera Knucklehead K120 Tre No Reverb $2099

VHT Pitbull UL USED! $2760
Sig X USED! $1880

Soldano Hot Rod 100 $2550
Avenger $1960
SLO 100 $3740

ENGL Powerball $1999
Invader $2999

Guitar Center:

Mesa Dual Rec $1799
Roadster $1999

Wild West Guitars:

Bogner Uberschall $2599
Ecstasy $3369
Shiva $2378

Diezel VH4 $4700
Herbert $4800
Einstein $3600

Rock N Roll Vintage:

Cornford MK50H $2999
MK50 MK11 $3999
RK100 $3699

Splawn:

Nitro $1950
Quick Rod $1850


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Re: Been Keeping This Under My Hat For Months...
« Reply #74 on: October 06, 2009, 03:16:38 AM »
I have played half of the amps you mentioned and would consider the Rev Plus to be a peer to the higher end, and far superior to VHT, Splawn and Mesa quality-wise.

 :lol: :lol: oh man!
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