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ericsabbath

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Re: Painkillers for my 1980 Les Paul!
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2009, 04:16:35 PM »
If Tim says Painkiller then get a Painkiller.
He knows the pickups inside out (funnily enough).

I still dont understand why people write threads like this.

Email Tim, then buy what he recommends. Simple.

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but maybe Tim (or us) might have misinterpretated what he really wants based on different descriptions
I've seen a lot of people that start threads on other forums asking about BKP's for some specific tone, then they come here and give a different objective, and then e-mail Tim asking for other stuff and without a detailed description, so they get different, sometimes opposite advices from experient people
also different people have different tastes, including Tim, so he might think that some models sound better in some guitars for some styles, but that's for HIS ears
for example, he usually recommends miracle man or painkiller for pantera
I had both and I say without a doubt that the cold sweat sounded much better and closer to those tones, at least in MY equipment
I'd e-mail Tim again giving more details, being clear about my objectives, and how import is each characteristic for me and asking why exactly he recommends some pickup over the other
if you really felt confident about wanting another model, I guess you wouldn't be asking him or us




« Last Edit: August 26, 2009, 04:18:09 PM by Eric Hellstyle »
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Re: Painkillers for my 1980 Les Paul!
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2009, 04:50:15 PM »
Last Tim email:

"Definitely not the NB- they come out really dark and bottom heavy in those early '80s LPCs.
CS set will work fine .......basically I recommend a ceramic bridge ......PK is tried and tested as far as I'm concerned as I own several LPCs from this era and I know how they sound.
Every customer who buys PKs always comes back to me a says how amazed they are at the definition and also how good they clean up.
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This man has a lot of patience!! heheheh



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Re: Painkillers for my 1980 Les Paul!
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2009, 05:10:13 PM »
Last Tim email:

"Definitely not the NB- they come out really dark and bottom heavy in those early '80s LPCs.
CS set will work fine .......basically I recommend a ceramic bridge ......PK is tried and tested as far as I'm concerned as I own several LPCs from this era and I know how they sound.
Every customer who buys PKs always comes back to me a says how amazed they are at the definition and also how good they clean up.
"
This man has a lot of patience!! heheheh

Tims the first and last person you need to speak to regarding bare knuckles.
Ive always got exactly what i wanted when emailing him.
Good luck.

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Re: Painkillers for my 1980 Les Paul!
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2009, 07:41:00 AM »
Get either the PK or the CS set. When Tim strongly advices against the Nailbomb, you shouldn't buy that one.

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Re: Painkillers for my 1980 Les Paul!
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2009, 04:52:12 PM »
Get either the PK or the CS set. When Tim strongly advices against the Nailbomb, you shouldn't buy that one.

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Yes. I think i'll buy a PK set...

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Re: Painkillers for my 1980 Les Paul!
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2009, 11:57:49 PM »
For me, the BKPainkiller is the best pickup ever made for rock/metal. Tried them all and finished up with this. It is metal first and foremost, but it's also surprisingly versatile. Impressed with the fusion tones too.

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Re: Painkillers for my 1980 Les Paul!
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2009, 05:23:17 PM »
If you want tight downtuned palm mutes with a Dual Rec, listen to Tim - definitely the PK!
The PK bridge would give cleans close to that track (like it BTW) too - don't get me wrong, it cleans up well - just not as sweet as a lower output humbucker. But that is the age old condundrum when playing metal-with-clean-bits :)
I can try and do you a clip if you like? Might have to wait till Wednesday though.

well, the Nailbomb is much tighter than I expected too (just as tight as the Cold Sweat)
at least in my les paul

but now I gotta add that the Rectos work better with ceramics, so now I'll agree with the Painkiller advice, or maybe a ceramic bomb

People say that Nailbomb is more versatile than Painkiller, and that's very important to me. I like tight palm mutes but i play palm mutes the 10-20% of the time. The most important part are the cleans, playing some solos, arpegios and tappings, and the distorted chords (with 3, 4 and FIVE notes simultaneously!!) that's why i need clarity too. In addition, we play a lot of parts with distorsion + effects like reverb, delay on the first strings...

So...NB or PK??   :o


i'd go for the NB... it's way more versatile and has got a unique melodic character that makes it my favourite lead pickup!
Mule, MQ, Stockholm, CS, RY, MM, PK, ANB, CNB, AWP, CWP, PiG90...

too many? ;)

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Re: Painkillers for my 1980 Les Paul!
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2009, 06:27:16 PM »
all I can say is that my 1973 les paul custom (pancake body, 3 piece mahogany neck, maple top) sounds great with the nailbombs and much brighter than I expected
I can't see why a maple neck les paul would sound dark

BUT... I don't recommend alnico for Rectos
I'd go for the painkiller or cold sweat, depending on the amount of mids you want
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Re: Painkillers for my 1980 Les Paul!
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2009, 08:56:16 PM »
I've buyed the PK finally. I trust Tim, he knows very well his pickups and the 80' gibson les paul sound...

I'll write you when i test them!