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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2010, 03:16:20 PM »
If I understand WR correctly, he loves the tone he's getting going direct to his amp.  Different pickups (and magnets and height adjustments) always change the tone.  Gain pedals usually "color" the sound.  Does anyone know of a decent pedal to boost the signal without coloring it?  Perhaps a decent EQ (set flat) or a compression pedal that would allow him to hit the front of the amp a lil bit harder without significantly changing his tone?

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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2010, 03:34:30 PM »
Indeed, that would be the Bodenhamer Bloody Murder, which is a tubescreamer type. In my hands, it adds very little colouration, and I use it with level set on max, no gain and tone something like 6/10 (I refuse to bow to this STUPID "O'clock" system! What's wrong with fractions!?).
To put this in perspective, I'm using a Black Dog bridge on a baritone going into a 5150-II. Would thoroughly recommend this pedal!!!

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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2010, 04:58:18 PM »
or you could use some sort of clean boost.. i have modded boss eq i like for example.

agree with Roo about the stupid o'clock system ;)
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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2010, 06:21:00 AM »
There are plenty of good clean boosts. I own a Voodoo Lab Sparkle drive that combines a tubescreamer -like overdrive section with a clean boost. With the blend -knob, it can act as your typical TS overdrive, or JUST a clean boost, or something in between.

About your pickup dilemma, I changed the Nailbomb from my strat to a Holydiver. The Diver gets pinch harmonics easier, and has a warmer top. I have been using the same gain setting on my amp as with the Nailbomb.

If you stick with the Nailbomb -style pickup, I'd rather get it overwound than stick a ceramic magnet in. You mentioned that you wouldn't mind it having a little less top end. Overwinding would make it have less top and more output. More mids too, and more compression. More compression would mean also easier pinch harmonics.

So my suggestion: the HD or get the Nailbomb overwound.

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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2010, 11:41:19 AM »
have a nice day everyone, take it easy  8) 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2010, 08:19:31 PM »
have a nice day everyone, take it easy  8) 8) 8) 8)

Take it easy? After all his (citation) "personal way of achieving sonic beauty [..] is coming to fruition.", that's serious business!  :lol:
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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2010, 09:22:31 PM »
If I understand WR correctly, he loves the tone he's getting going direct to his amp.  Different pickups (and magnets and height adjustments) always change the tone.

BINGO!  :)

I am a bit overwhelmed by all the responses since my last post, you guys here are really a great bunch of people and my kind of musicians too, thank you.

Yes, I'm a purist and a perfectionist like most here I'm sure.  I personally have a deep love for playing straight in, I really can feel and hear the rawness of the every basic componet.  Also, the challenge of getting a beautiful modern processed sound is fun and rewarding for me.  So as you probably imagine, I'm a mad scientist in regards to every little detail of my valves, cabling, solder used, etc., and on & on through every last minute detail of my entire signal chain.

I use a Bogner Shiva guys, the most recent standard model with EL34's.  I use the gain channel only but never the boost. Everything is done from the guitar, which is an H/S Strat, weak single in the neck and HB bridge, one volume control, a three way switch, and most importantly my heart and hands.

In conclusion here, I've been dissecting my tone chain for 25 years, BPK's hot PU's amazingly have great string to string seperation / clarity.  So at this point if you will all please let me be me, and accept that I know my signal chain and just simply had a question about my volume pot's resistance value and a question concerning other BPK's in relation to my quest, I will feel respected and give respect back.

Thanks again, I've never come across such a well demeanored forum, I'm happy to have found it and fortunate to know you all exist in the world.

WR
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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2010, 09:56:09 PM »
There are plenty of good clean boosts. I own a Voodoo Lab Sparkle drive that combines a tubescreamer -like overdrive section with a clean boost. With the blend -knob, it can act as your typical TS overdrive, or JUST a clean boost, or something in between.

About your pickup dilemma, I changed the Nailbomb from my strat to a Holydiver. The Diver gets pinch harmonics easier, and has a warmer top. I have been using the same gain setting on my amp as with the Nailbomb.

If you stick with the Nailbomb -style pickup, I'd rather get it overwound than stick a ceramic magnet in. You mentioned that you wouldn't mind it having a little less top end. Overwinding would make it have less top and more output. More mids too, and more compression. More compression would mean also easier pinch harmonics.

So my suggestion: the HD or get the Nailbomb overwound.

-Zaned

Excellent and most appreciated Zaned.  :)

I don't want more compression so the HD has surpassed the MM and overwound NB after gaining knowledge of both PU's from you and others here.  I'm 99% sure an HD bridge will be on the way soon, just waiting for a response from Tim about a single coil so I can order both at the same time.

WR
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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2010, 12:51:16 AM »
I use a Bogner Shiva guys, the most recent standard model with EL34's.  I use the gain channel only but never the boost. Everything is done from the guitar, which is an H/S Strat, weak single in the neck and HB bridge, one volume control, a three way switch, and most importantly my heart and hands.

awesome amp  :D :D :D

not sure if you're talking about an external boost or the built-in boost switch
the "boost switch" isn't really a boost
it's a actually gain cut
it leaks the signal before the second gain stage
it's like reducing the gain pot or using a lower value pot
when it's engaged, it's actually out of circuit, and that's how the amp would sound without that switch
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Re: Nailbomb Help - Need One More Notch
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2010, 03:15:25 AM »
Thanks Eric, yes the even order harmonics in the amp are awesome, it's like a hot Marshall brought up to a modern voicing.

Ya, the built-in boost, and I learned a few months ago about what you said, when the boost in not engaged it's like the amp is being choked off its most open signal path.  The amp is a bit muddy with the boost on, Bogner came to know this too and cleaned it up a bit on the 20th model.

I'd like to have the 20th, without reverb it's $2400 USD in the States, which is bit pricey seeing BPK's through my non-boosted channel are awesome, so it'll wait until I have extra money, plus this is good time to go through some BPK's over the next few months with an amp I'm totally dialed in to.

WR
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