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Twinfan

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"New" models from PRS???
« on: September 25, 2010, 09:58:49 AM »
Is it me, or are these just Strats and LPs???   :?

They even call the LP the "Singlecut 58" for crying out loud  :roll:


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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2010, 10:01:18 AM »
I thought they'd discontinued the single cut in favour of the mcarty again? this was after discontinuing the mcarty in favour of the single cut.

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2010, 10:39:56 AM »
I've said before I don't like the look of the PRS tune-o-matic and stoptail - they seem to be different just for the sake of being different.

(Old style birds have returned, I see!)

As for the "Strats", I'd be happier to see reissues of the first or second series EG models.  At least they looked like PRS guitars!  These remind me of Ibanez Blazers:

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2010, 10:45:42 AM »

(Old style birds have returned, I see!)



yeah i noticed that too, but only on these and the CU24. i'm definitely an old birds kinda guy. I see they have a 22 fretter in the as well with the quattro after getting rid of the custom 22

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2010, 10:54:53 AM »
Hmmm, I like some parts of the LP but definitely not the strat. Good to see the old style birds return, much nicer. I agree with Philly - they should do something about tune-o-matic and stoptail.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2010, 11:02:33 AM »
Ted Nugent?  :wink:

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2010, 11:12:49 AM »
Oh crikey, I really like this!  :o    Best looking SE model ever?




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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2010, 11:30:35 AM »
Yep, I'd agree with you there Phil!

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2010, 01:09:15 PM »
Do they WANT another law suit or something?

If this won't work, maybe they'll do a Rickenbacker copy.
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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2010, 02:00:27 PM »
If the "Strats" remind me of anything, it's the abortive Gibson Hendrix "signature model", and the one with the mini-humbuckers seems to have cavities that would take a P-90 with minimal carving. I'm not totally sold here, but, like the Gibson, there might well be some potential for diamonds in the rough.


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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2010, 02:15:27 PM »
yeah, I get the need to evolve, but PRS has gotten a bit crazy recently, there seems to be multiple cancellations and additions to the lineups every year, hard to keep up, and also if you're that way inclined hard to know if what you're buying will keep it's value.

There amps aren't getting shining reviews, not bad but not shining either. its almost like the lineup is too varied. i know fender have umpteen variations on a strat and gibson on a les paul, but they're little tweaks as opposed to radically different ideas. I also think PRS has its own part of the market, like gibson and fender, which, given the age of the company and their high end status is a reasonably unique thing. they seem to be trying to convince people that their "strat" and "paul" alikes are better than the companies that make them. now that may well be but guitarists are a fickle and stubborn bunch. I don't know i f i wanted to play a PRS that sounds like a strat. just doesn't seem.. right?

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2010, 02:42:20 PM »
PRS are a little hamstrung by their own history, though. They've always been that company that does somewhat classy, somewhat understated bits of timber-pr0n as guitars. They haven't the range of body styles and, laterally, musical genre bases that Gibson or Fender have. Any attempt they've made to broaden the range has seemed a little half-hearted and "me too", apart from maybe the Mira.

In my opinion, they need to come up with something other than the Santana/Doublecut/Singlecut shapes and work out the new ideas on that, rather than forcing things into lightly tweaked old shapes. 

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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2010, 03:35:03 PM »
I really think they should just stick to what they do best - the Mira is probably the only 'new' shape of theirs that I am interested in.

How long will it be until PRS come out with pointy guitar designs?
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2010, 03:56:43 PM »
Interesting, feeds right into something I was thinking about this morning... I was looking at guitars some of which were possibly capable of covering strat territory. On my way home I found myself wondering about the strat-a-like guitar by www.prguitars.co.uk, which I do find quite sexy, but I concluded the wondering with "why, Andrew??!"

Anyway, Philly's post of an Ibanez Blazer in response to these PRS things really helped me get straight what I'd been feeling subconsciously earlier.

Long-ish post alert - but we do end up at PRS!! (But I am pretty much saying what others are, slightly more succinctly :lol: eg. Ian's post while I was typing)

In the early 80s, I was getting going and getting my first electric guitars. My first serious one was a Westone Thunder IA. About a year or so into using that in a rock band, it was obvious what I really wanted was "the" strat sound. The Westone with coil taps got me close enough for me to understand that, but not close enough to satisfy it. But I couldn't afford a Fender. Westone brought out the Concorde - tried one, it was closer, but still not there (and my band thought it looked vile :lol:).

Then things started mixing up a bit, and the Blazer came out - I came very close to getting one, I saw several local bands playing them, and they do achieve the "early 80s strat sound" people were using in those days. It still isn't "the" strat sound I was after... Then one of the Japanese Squiers arrived in my backwoods and I got it, and that was it.

Now, I suspect that this "the" strat sound is something imaginary in my head. But it will be in a lot of other strat-players' heads as well. The folk that don't particularly value that sound don't really seem to get or buy into strats (not helped by the ubiquitous cheap copies that have been around for years). The folk that do like that sound, that lust after it like I do, those folks end up being strat-players...

Rightly or wrongly, my experience as one of these old-git strat-players tells me that NOTHING sounds like an actual strat... if I want a strat, I'm getting a strat or a well built copy. And I'm afraid that I snort amusing snorting sounds at folks that make things like the above PRS strat-a-like. They're never going to convince the folks like me to get one!! Hell, it is so easy nowadays to get a decent strat with Fender written on it, what sane person who wants a strat is going to get a more expensive guitar that is a bit like but actually isn't a strat?!! This PRS isn't even pretty, it's a copy whose design has been fiddled with by someone's niece or nephew (which is a big advantage that the PRguitars strat-a-like has over them - it cleverly tips its hat to its inspiration, and then produces a tribute that is at the same time a) pretty, b) innovative in a way Fender can't be with its own shape, and c) doesn't take the p1ss).

Crazy stuff from PRS!

I'm probably never going to get a PRS, so they don't actually need to pay any attention to me what so ever. But...

The only PRSs I've been tempted by are the original and beautiful "cross-between-a-strat-and-a-les-paul" things (don't know the model name) that they got famous with, and the Miras recently. Those offerings seem to have identities that say "PRS" to me. If I see a guitar that looks like them, I think "PRS copy". They've established a brand that I recognise and respect, even if I've decided not to partake.

These guitars in the op, however, make me go "er, strat?, nope, chuckle" and "er, les paul, nope, chuckle". If I was gonna buy a PRS, I want a PRS, not... whatever these things are :lol:
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Re: "New" models from PRS???
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2010, 04:46:25 PM »

The only PRSs I've been tempted by are the original and beautiful "cross-between-a-strat-and-a-les-paul" things (don't know the model name) that they got famous with, and the Miras recently. Those offerings seem to have identities that say "PRS" to me. If I see a guitar that looks like them, I think "PRS copy". They've established a brand that I recognise and respect, even if I've decided not to partake.

These guitars in the op, however, make me go "er, strat?, nope, chuckle" and "er, les paul, nope, chuckle". If I was gonna buy a PRS, I want a PRS, not... whatever these things are :lol:

Yeah exactly, what i was trying to say. PRS have their own identity, Like fender and gibson, so why try and break into parts of the market already taken care of by other companies. and as you say, if people want a "strat" they'll buy a strat, or a tokai or whatever.