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_tom_

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« on: December 20, 2005, 02:33:07 PM »
Ok, so during the summer holidays I decided to refinish my old strat copy, as I didnt really like its sunburst. I did it a deep blue, which I regret, as I've been looking at creamy-white strats (olympic white?) and I think they look amazing! I want to refinish it in this colour, but I dont know how I should go about stripping the paint. My dad reckons I should just sand the lacquer off then put the new colour over the blue, but I thought that the blue might still show through the white? What do you lot think? I'd hate to have to re-strip it all again  :lol:

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2005, 04:06:23 PM »
Hi _tom_. I've never refinished a guitar before, so you might get more accurate answers than mine, but I used to do a lot of spraying when I was a signwriter. So I know a little bit about finishing wood.

The way to do it would probably be to use paint stripper to see if you can get most of the paint off that way. Then sand it smooth. Once you've done that, apply an undercoat. In theory you could just apply an undercoat without completely stripping the paint back, but thick coats of finish supposedly aren't good for a guitar's resonance. That's not my area of expertise though.

You'll probably want a few layers of undercoat--sand them down each time--and then you can start with your topcoat. The undercoat would stop any previous colour showing through, whether you'd completely removed it or not.

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2005, 04:14:32 PM »
Yeah I think I'll probably buy some proper paint stripper this time then, taking all the paint off with a heat gun takes forever! Anyone know of where to get some good paint stripper for getting car paint off (I just used halfords paint/primer/lacquer!) that wont damage the wood? Oh and where could I get that olympic white kinda colour?

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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2005, 05:05:08 PM »
_tom_ would u recomment refinishing ure guitars... i hate my dean z88's metal black look... id much rather it was colourfull... personally would love to halenize (think i just made up a word)  it!!!!!!!!11
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2005, 06:50:36 PM »
I dunno it takes a while to do! The preparation of the wood is the hardest bit I found. You have to sand it loads!

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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2005, 12:58:27 PM »
Check out www.reranch.com - everything you need to know!

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2005, 03:06:42 PM »
I read a letter in Guitarist years ago that said not to use Nitromors unless it is diluted (I think it can damage the wood). I know my mate stripped his old squier strat, but not sure how he did it. I'm not sure sanding it would be much fun - I recently did a window ledge and it took the best part of the day!

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2005, 04:00:47 PM »
Where can you get Nitromors from? I'm not that bothered about diluting it, so long as itl work! I hated stripping my old finish with a heat gun, it took me ages, around a week doing about an hour or so's work a time.. The lighter parts of sunburst were really hard to get off for some reason :?

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2005, 08:29:03 PM »
A hardware store should do it. Make sure that there is plenty of ventilation when you use it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2005, 09:11:18 PM »
Tescos sell it. I'd see what the guitar technicians say before you do it.

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2005, 09:18:56 PM »
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Tescos sell it. I'd see what the guitar technicians say before you do it.


I didnt know they sold that kinda stuff! What section is it in?!

Yeah I was waiting for Feline or someone to come in on this one but it doesnt look like anyone is! If I cant get any advice I'll probably to the painstaking heat gun method  :lol:

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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2005, 05:24:43 PM »
dude i'd just sand the hell out of it and spray it. its only a copy, and it'll feel nice and woody afterwards! :P thats the no-nonsense, probably not gonna work, but i'm gonna bloody do it anyways Indy method 8) rock and roll brother
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2005, 07:37:33 PM »
hahah yeah but I want it to look good still! I found a "proper" paint stripping heat gun in the garage so I think I'll use that instead of my mums "craft heat gun" I used last time  :lol: Will halfords paint come off ok using this method? I dont fancy it exploding when the heat gun is near!

Also where can I get "vintage white" paint from?

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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2005, 08:37:17 PM »
I bought a Warwick second hand that some one had had sprayed soild red polyester! I sanded the finish off with an electric sander. It took two days but it was well worth it, It was solid flamed maple!
If you sand it make shure you wear a good quaility mask as most paint dust is very toxic. I wore a S10 current issue gas mask, not easy to get hold of but nothing can get through it!

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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2005, 10:37:45 AM »
In contrast to the advice above, I would say do not sand it, you'll end up changing the contours of the body. Use Nitromors to strip the old paint, (I've been using it for years without any problems) then clean up the remnants with steel wool and thinners. Finally a rub all over with naptha [lighter fluid], and only then should you sand, or possibly scr@pe with a cabinet scr@per, if necessary. This will work for car paint but for some of the poly finishes, heat is the only way.  Use a matt white undercoat and sand this smooth with wet and dry before putting on colour. It's a good idea to put clear over the colour coat too. And remember - the better the finish you get on the bare wood, the better the end result, don't hope that the paint will fill dings and scratches.
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