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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2011, 01:11:28 AM »
That bridge is bitchin!

Yeah, they don't make them anymore. I don't know how I came to find two perfectly good specimens which have never been installed. I feel lucky for the price, $50 USD a piece. The only guitar I know of that used them in production was the Peavey Vandenberg, but I am not a fan of the route job they did for it. It's way too large, rounded and just not "right". It's like a loose pair of jeans over a nice tight female butt.  :lol:

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2011, 01:16:17 PM »
They don't sell them anymore? Dang it. I would've wanted one.
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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2011, 04:17:34 PM »
No worries, Jonny. Now that the Floyd patents have run out, Kahler is producing new fulcrum style bridges and they are being released this year. If you go to their site and e-mail them about it, they will confirm, but no set date yet. The guy who runs Whammi World told me in e-mail that he's seen them and they will blow minds when they are available. He said they look like a modern version of what I have here, but the pivot joint is very different and you can use either knife edges OR ball bearings.

Whammi World also has a very small amount of these bridges I have, but only in black and they are $250 USD. I'm pretty sure you can talk him down in price if you e-mail him as these are forgotten relics of the 1980s tremolo war. Paul Gilbert used these on his Epiphone and Ibanez guitars he played when RacerX was in full swing. Here is a pic I found of Paul with a chrome version with black saddle assemblies.

I don't think my fingers have ever done that move there, lol.
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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2011, 03:49:30 AM »
SUCCESS!! Well, close. I still have some sanding to do on it, but the bevel is more or less correct and I'm happy.  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


Nice and straight this time! I was still feeling gun shy after the last run, so I didn't do them last night. This was about 30 mins ago, lol. Now to do the backside bevels and the belly cut. I'm not so nervous now. After some tests on scr@p(I know don't even say it), I found the best method was to draw the curved bevel on the top and route to the intersection. Then I had a straight edge guide for the other side to follow that side out to the tip. So at this point the tip is half finished so I drew a straight line from the top intersection to the tip and routed that.

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2011, 04:43:11 PM »
nice bevel work - and an excellent save

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2011, 12:39:50 AM »
Very nice! Time for a pic of the whole guitar? :P

I saw that Wammi World (seller of only Kahler bridges) has this one in stock: NOS...

Thinking if I shall buy one, it looks "okay" (I hate the other Kahler's look) and if it's so superior than a FR, is something to considerate

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2011, 02:01:19 AM »
Well I'm on the fence here about the belly cut. Here's a quick thing I did in paint. Altered the neck heel to be closer to what I did as to get a better image. What do you guys think? Red? White? Fernando, I'll get a pic of the whole guitar from the front in just a few mins.... The back isn't done yet so no pics, lol.

And about the Kahler, three things to consider that I didn't mention. One, the stud spacing and the route is not the same as any Floyd, so unless it's a new build, I wouldn't recommend it. See how the pic of Paul Gilbert's guitar has an adapter plate where the old trem was?
Two, the range of downward motion is more limited than a Floyd because of how the studs and the pockets on the trem interact. All this means is that you can't make your strings totally loose spaghetti like Eddie Van Halen. The pull-ups aren't affected they have about the same range, but going down is. It's absolutely fine for any whammy trick except for making your strings have no tension.
Three, it is not easy to find parts and the ones that are available cost a fortune. Whammi World sells, for instance, one of the saddle assemblies for $35
Other than those three things, yeah, I do feel it is better than the Floyd Rose. It looks better(IMO), it feels better(IMO), it's more adjustable, it's lower and the knife edge is easier and cheaper to maintain.

If you like Strat style guitars, look for a used Peavey Vandenberg or Nitro. They used the Killer and generally it is cheaper to buy a whole used Vandenberg than to buy one of these trems outright.

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2011, 02:03:37 AM »
LOL! Forgot! Red or white guys?

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2011, 02:53:59 AM »
Here. Whole thing with a black background. I tried a different camera and a lot of lighting. I read that somewhere, but it looks kinda washed out. The fingerboard will stay the same tint, but the Wenge, when oiled, with be much much darker.


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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2011, 03:13:41 AM »
Here's one looking down the fingerboard. It's a better pic, but I need a tripod or something. Every pic I take has fuzz from my slight movements.

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2011, 10:55:24 PM »
VERY cool! :D

About the belly cut: depends of the size of your belly :lol: That is a lot personal choice, when I was fit I didn't care about it, now it's different :lol:

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2011, 11:34:23 PM »
Perhaps I should stick a normal Kahler on it and carve the back out much more in preparation for my bodies unstoppable demise. I will make sure to leave a little prong in the middle so I can keep it aligned by sticking that in my belly button. Ergonomics, baby. I think I'm gonna get pretty damn fat later on when my testosterone drops and I keep eating the way I do.

Well I'm not a big guy, but my chest sticks out farther than my belly does. I went with white, tried it out, and continued to do the red. It hugs the bottom of my ribs really nicely. Perhaps if I still played my guitar like I did as a teen, I would not need a belly cut at all. I would need a "bulge" cut. Unfortunately, this would be a much smaller feature.  :(

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2011, 12:02:54 AM »
Well, as far as I can understand, you used to play like the guitar shall stay: the back route for springs fitting that particular part of men's body :lol:

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2011, 12:15:35 AM »
I would do a different kind of pinch harmonic if that situation ever happened, lol.

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Re: Wenge Rhoads Build
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2011, 05:45:07 AM »
    Here is the belly cut. Wiped it down with a little solvent to see minute scratches and it brought the color to what it would be if I oiled it so I snapped a pic. I will be altering the color a bit to make it darker, not black, just darker so it goes better with the fingerboard and the binding. It's a bit to light and a bit too red as is. At the tip there where I made the repair there is a little glue line. That was just on the surface and has been sanded.
     I think I will do the other backside bevel tomorrow. I called my luthier guy who agreed to put in the bridge and he said he has some guitars to build before he can take care of me. Have to wait two weeks, pay someone else or do it myself. I may do it myself if I can find some extremely detailed instructions. Don't wanna mess that up.