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guitar racism
« on: December 12, 2010, 01:06:00 AM »
couple of funny situations this week. got chatting about guitars with some peeps, anyway got some unexpectedly strong reactions.

at my work's christmas do: 'flying v? i think thats the only guitar i really look down on'
and tonight at a house party: 'you cant get a more ostentatious guitar'

well, naturally i don't care too much about those thoughts, but it has got me thinking, i guess people do make judgements based on what instrument you play... roo and his anti-tele fetish for example. and it seems a lot of people dislike Vs too.

i can't imagine some one being anti- les paul, stratocaster or SG for example. anyone else been in such a situation?
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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 01:53:33 AM »
Its hardly a 'situation' really.

Youre on the flipside of it and thats accentuated the apparent importance of the comments. Going for one body shape is a bit unusual.

Granted I've done similarly, but never set out to: I play superstrat shaped guitars because of the ergonomics. I've had other shapes, but always come back to that one because it just meshes with me best. Explorers in second place because they're comfortable except slothing around on the couch!

I suppose a lot of guitars have a strong connection to particular styles. While theres nothing written in stone that you have to play cheesy 80s metal on a V or cant play death metal on a 335, those connections are there, and people form a lot of their asthetic judgment of a guitar based on that musical connection and their opinion of the music. Its no big deal, surely?

It is interesting when the bias is removed, though; my nan once commented that my guitar was great looking. The guitar in question is a jackson DX1, my nans a fundamentalist christian (or was until she *totally* lost her mind) and thinks that metal is the music of a genuine literal satan. I'm pretty sure she wouldnt like the guitar if she knew the musical ascociation :lol:

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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 01:54:38 AM »
The closest I get to guitar prejudice is this...



C*NT + DEAN RAZORBACK = TYPICAL DEAN RAZORBACK OWNER  :? :x
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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 03:23:46 AM »
No veto's on guitars for me. Everyone should play the guitar that fits his style and technique. Strats en tele's work in the bands I'm playing now. I fell in love with singlecoils again. Had a '89 Jem FP, but I couldn't stand the floyd and stringchangeprocedure anymore. Also the singlecoilpositions 2 and 4 were whimpy compared to my superstrat. Missed the real stratattack on the lower strings. The Jem was made for heavy rock/metal and not really suitable for my coverbands.
I appreciate Les Pauls for classic rock and hardrock, and the looks of cours. But most of them are to heavy for me. V's are cool, but I never got on well with the necks. An natural korina Explorer with white plate is the only Gibson I'm really GASing on.
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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 07:42:12 AM »
Guitarists in general are a very conservative lot! play what you like, don't worry about it,some people can only see as far as LPs and Strats, thats their problem.

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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 08:29:26 AM »
When my aunt saw my LPB relic strat she called it "a load of old tat" and "a waste of money".
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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 08:33:12 AM »
The closest I get to guitar prejudice is this...



C*NT + DEAN RAZORBACK = TYPICAL DEAN RAZORBACK OWNER  :? :x

I agree this comes close to raising feelings of guitar racism in me, but in general I kinda exercise a bemused "live and let live" attitude to what folks want to play...

So, you don't get anymore prejudice now you've calmed down then, Dave? And what made you you see the light and change your image in the first place? It is a bit harsh calling yourself a C*NT though... you were just misguided... have you still got the guitar, btw?

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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2010, 08:50:25 AM »
telecasters should be wiped out of existence  :grrr:
they sound annoying, ear piercing and noticeably out of tune in the bridge position (that plate seems to vibrate in a different tone or something)
they look cheap and really bad designed, like Leo Fender was bored and lazy, so he didn't finish the guitar body and headstock
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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 08:52:47 AM »
There aren't many guitars I simply won't touch because of how they look. I used to but then I grew up and realised that everything is useful for something and the feel of different types of guitars makes for interesting playing.

I tend to stick with what is comfortable though. To me there's nothing more comfortable than a Strat body, the necks differ because I love big fat necks but I grew up always having a Strat near by.

What I won't play or should I say, don't find interesting are guitars with EMGs and Floyd Roses. There are so many companies using this configuration that I find it a bit lazy. I also seem to associate it with metal players who appear in Total Guitar every week and are around the age of 15 to 25.

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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 09:04:34 AM »
The biggest issue I've come across seems to be towards PRS guitars.  Owners love them, lots of folk think they're flash with no substance  :roll:

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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2010, 09:44:19 AM »
Most of us love a good LP, however I know which I prefer hanging around my neck on a long gig! with todays amps and fx the gap is very close.

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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2010, 10:02:05 AM »
used to hate LP's for some unknown reason, cos i always thought they looked kinda cool.. now my bassist has a LP Custom copy and it looks fuggin awesome on me, so i'm planning on one, when i have the cash..
same with that Flying V i wanted to order from jonathan ages ago.. they're gonna be twins hehehe..

as far as other prejudices against guitars go..  i dont like some shapes cos they look goofy, but i dont hate them. the only guitars i REALLY despise are ALL Deans, because the owners of them are usually retarded and/ or ####!!s. plus their new line is ugly as shite and their marketing needs a moral checkup.

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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2010, 10:38:41 AM »
I actually have a few main dislikes of certain guitars.

Anything Fender just looks cheap and half finished, anything BC Rich just looks like something a 13 year old should play and Deans are also in that same category.

But nothing in my opinion is worse than that shitety horrible Cricket bat steinberger thing.

But yeah everything else looks decent :P

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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2010, 11:48:50 AM »
About the only thing's I wouldn't play just based on looks would be some of the more 'out there' metal shaped BC Richs and the Dean Razorbacks, although I did have an ML years ago.

I know a guy on another forum that has such a severe hate of anything that isn't an LP or SG that he makes Roo look like he loves Teles!  :lol:
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Re: guitar racism
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2010, 11:53:24 AM »
The biggest issue I've come across seems to be towards PRS guitars.  Owners love them, lots of folk think they're flash with no substance  :roll:
i guess they do have that lawyer guitar image.. that does put me off owning one, even if i don't mind the look myself, and think they have some very interesting models.

But nothing in my opinion is worse than that shiteeety horrible Cricket bat steinberger thing.
ah - another of my favourite guitars :D
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