guitar racism

[Twinfan]

Hate's a strong word, but plenty of people seem to have very strong feelings about them.....

[FELINEGUITARS]

I dont hate any guitars per se, but I do get annoyed with companies that perpetuate designs that are difficult or impossible to work on for the sake of keeping true to tradition. Inaccessible truss rods is one such complaint.

Strats - my main issue
Also growing up in the 70s and 80s and seeing bands (hard rock, glam or metal) that used cool shape guitars, ranging from Vs and Explorers to Iceman and the cool (old) BC Rich shapes, i was always looking forward to sseing a new tour and seeing what great colourful creations that the players would be using , only to find that they had "grown up", "matured" and lost their sense of flash, and often lost their firepower too and were now playing old Fender strats instead of their usual guitars.
It was just so boring and unimaginative to my outlook .
I like a lot of strats and love how some play and sound (in fact I adore the recent Classic Vibe Squiers), and I see that Leo Fender really got so much right with that design in 1954.

I look at the guitars that I have (and have had) in my own arsenal and I seem to like a lot of the ones that divide opinion
I love Vs and Rhoads shapes
(I also love Les Pauls though it's true few dislike the shape of those even if they hate the weight)
I like certain superstrats and I have owned more than my fair share of Steinberger clones
BC Rich classics (Bich, Mockingbird, Stealth, Eagle and Warlock)
Iceman, Destroyer, Hamer Scarab, Explorer etc all float my boat

[Brow]

fair enough, just from the way you said it it sounded like you thought people were mad if they didn't like dings in their guitars :lol:

Sorry, I didn't mean it to come across like that!

I was just trying to get the point across that even though I'm not a fan of dings etc, I still wouldn't turn down what could potentially be the best quality guitar I own for a good price just because of a small nick in the top and that several people that went to look at it before I did did turn it down.

Maybe I'm just fickle  :lol:

[Ratrod]

I have a dislike of Strats. They sound just fine but I hate playing them. The middle pickup gets in the way, the upper knob gets in the way and i don't like the vibrato unit either.

And everybody has one. I go to a jam and there are 4 other guitarists. 3 of them play a Strat and one an old Music Master. All of them use Marshall amplification.

A Strat is the VW Golf of guitars.

So I show up with a Gretsch and an Engl (Fender style) amp.

[gwEm]

Strats - my main issue
growing up in the 70s and 80s and seeing bands (hard rock, glam or metal) that used cool shape guitars, ranging from Vs....
... only to find that they had "grown up", "matured" and lost their sense of flash, and often lost their firepower too and were now playing old Fender strats instead of their usual guitars.

:oops:  :oops:


my three favourite guitars getting hammered - Vs, Steinbergers and Strats... love it!

[dave_mc]

Sorry, I didn't mean it to come across like that!

I was just trying to get the point across that even though I'm not a fan of dings etc, I still wouldn't turn down what could potentially be the best quality guitar I own for a good price just because of a small nick in the top and that several people that went to look at it before I did did turn it down.

Maybe I'm just fickle  :lol:

no worries, that's fair enough- it does depend on the size of the ding, where it is, if it's gone through to the wood etc.

I'm just remembering a guitar shop here which had a (new) guitar with a ding they'd put in it (a big one, on the front, extremely noticeable), and they offered to throw off something daft like £80 (it was a £1400 guitar... I'd have expected to get at least that off a pristine one just by asking, at that kind of price :lol: ).

[tomjackson]

You don't hear violinists or pianists complaining about how boring their instruments look!

Just accept it, Strats are the standard accepted shape for electric guitars :D

[Transcend]

You don't hear violinists or pianists complaining about how boring their instruments look!

Just accept it, Strats are the standard accepted shape for electric guitars :D

that all depends on the crowd really. I see more LP's/clones or nasty ass Deans out there when i go to gigs than i do strats.

[FELINEGUITARS]

You don't hear violinists or pianists complaining about how boring their instruments look!

Just accept it, Strats are the standard accepted shape for electric guitars :D

Granted - strats, teles and Les pauls are the standard shapes

Remember I was only late teens and early 20s at the time, and wild looking guitars were exciting to me

Now I'm in my mid 40s and I have matured into liking classic flying Vs as opposed to Jackson Rhoads :D

[dave_mc]

You don't hear violinists or pianists complaining about how boring their instruments look!

they're acoustic instruments, though (by and large), so the shape affects the tone considerably. While I'm not going to say shape doesn't affect electric guitar tone, it's much less of a problem.

[sgmypod]

Got to say love sound of strats..just couldn't live with one...or tele's even had a feline tele couldn't live with it.

Yet other odd guitars I can like my dan armstrong plexi...although prob one of my favourite guitars is my duesy...basically a take on a LP shape...just far sweeter to play

[ToneMonkey]

I just can't get excited with strats or LP's anymore.  I sometimes see one that I like, but generally I just can't be arsed with them.

[HTH AMPS]

I love pretty much all guitars, I'd happy have one of each  8)

I do prefer guitars to be a bit rough and ready though and not 100% perfectly set up in the sense that most people would like (low action, smooth frets).  I seem to get more out of guitars where you have to dig in and wrestle with them a bit - weird I know.

My Les Paul plays the equivalent of driving down a cobbled road with knackered suspension, but I'm used to it.  I'm sure a fret-dress would do wonders for it, but I might loose the feel I like about that guitar.

[Transcend]

I love pretty much all guitars, I'd happy have one of each  8)

I do prefer guitars to be a bit rough and ready though and not 100% perfectly set up in the sense that most people would like (low action, smooth frets).  I seem to get more out of guitars where you have to dig in and wrestle with them a bit - weird I know.

My Les Paul plays the equivalent of driving down a cobbled road with knackered suspension, but I'm used to it.  I'm sure a fret-dress would do wonders for it, but I might loose the feel I like about that guitar.

I have a friend who has a 80s Charvel that really badly needs a fret dress as in its got to the point that the frets are completely flat but not completely gone.

But he absolutely loves how it plays and is worried about getting it sorted incase he wont like the feel as much

[Brow]

Sorry, I didn't mean it to come across like that!

I was just trying to get the point across that even though I'm not a fan of dings etc, I still wouldn't turn down what could potentially be the best quality guitar I own for a good price just because of a small nick in the top and that several people that went to look at it before I did did turn it down.

Maybe I'm just fickle  :lol:

no worries, that's fair enough- it does depend on the size of the ding, where it is, if it's gone through to the wood etc.

I'm just remembering a guitar shop here which had a (new) guitar with a ding they'd put in it (a big one, on the front, extremely noticeable), and they offered to throw off something daft like £80 (it was a £1400 guitar... I'd have expected to get at least that off a pristine one just by asking, at that kind of price :lol: ).

The 1 on the guitar I got is pretty bad. Not too big, but it is quite deep. Ah well, the price eased the pain  :lol:

£80 off a brand new expensive guitar cause of a ding, Id've thought more surely?!