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kmanick

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7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« on: April 13, 2011, 03:03:15 AM »
So I decided to try an Aftermath in the bridge of my Bernie Rico 7 string.
not loving it.    :(
I replaced a Crunchlab with itand it doesn't sound all that different
from the Crunchlab to me.
I was hoping for thicker fuller single note lines but alas the dreaded ceramic magnet has foiled me again.

My Rico is all mahogany with a maple top and an ebony board, and for some reason my bridge pickups sound really bright. (it has a 500k pot , checked that out already)
I have a Rebel Yell in my RG7CT and I love it, but I want something different in this guitar.
so I'm thinking a HolyDiver or if I can get my hands on a 7 string AlnicoV magnet maybe swapping out the Ceramic pickup in the Aftermath?
I like the toanlity of the Aftermath but I need something warmer.
I don't Djent and I don't play death metal , more Prog/shred (I play a lot of lead)
and I don't use insane amounts of gain (this is thru a Mesa mark IV)

I need some suggestions
thanks
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 03:53:15 PM »
If you like the tonality of the Aftermath, maybe you could ask Tim about putting the neck model on the bridge. i'd been very curious to try some of the neck models on the bridge myself, as I feel the same as you towards ceramic magnets.

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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 04:55:41 PM »
i'm not sure of what you love in the AM tone if you find it too trebly and thin, but an excellent choice - if you're mostly a lead guitarist - could be an alnico nailbomb. best lead tone (IMO) of all BKP range, the right amount of bass and mids and a bright but rounded top end...
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 05:23:17 PM »
I  have found (IMO) that with high outpbu ceramic pickups that the sound on the lower strings is
very good, nice and tight with good clarity, but this translates to  an almost single coil type of sound on the higher strings. This drives me crazy, I hear it with almost evey ceramic bridge pick up out there that I've tried.
The Nailbomb is great I had one in my old Carvin DC727, but I actually like the Rebel Yell better, it sounds very close to a nailbomb but with a tighter bottom end.
If I didn't already have one in my Ibanez RG7CT 7 I'd grab another, but I want some variation with my 7's (all 3 of them  :D )
I think I'm going to try a HolyDiver. I got a response back from Ben at BK this morning and I like am leaning in that direction.
the only Ceramic 7 I've liked so far in the bride is the MiracleMan (in y 7620's).
For some reason in Basswood this pickup kicks ass.
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 05:24:07 PM »
I was hoping for thicker fuller single note lines but alas the dreaded ceramic magnet has foiled me again.
so I'm thinking a HolyDiver or if I can get my hands on a 7 string AlnicoV magnet maybe swapping out the Ceramic pickup in the Aftermath?
I like the toanlity of the Aftermath but I need something warmer.
I don't Djent and I don't play death metal , more Prog/shred (I play a lot of lead)
and I don't use insane amounts of gain (this is thru a Mesa mark IV)

This to me screams Holydiver but Alnico Nailbomb would work, too.

Cheers Stephan

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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 05:35:28 PM »
I  have found (IMO) that with high outpbu ceramic pickups that the sound on the lower strings is
very good, nice and tight with good clarity, but this translates to  an almost single coil type of sound on the higher strings.

you should ask tim to make a mixed magnet pickup...  :lol:
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 05:51:14 PM »
you should ask tim to make a mixed magnet pickup...  :lol:

I was under the impression the Aftermath had several magnets in it(was it 3?). Not too sure on what's inside exactly, but maybe that could be used to an advantage if you're the magnet swapping type.  :wink:

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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 06:27:22 PM »
you should ask tim to make a mixed magnet pickup...  :lol:

I was under the impression the Aftermath had several magnets in it(was it 3?). Not too sure on what's inside exactly, but maybe that could be used to an advantage if you're the magnet swapping type.  :wink:

he would probably need a 4mm alnico bar in a 7-string size
that would be interesting for sure
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 06:31:34 PM »
I just checked  the specs 3 custom size ceramic magnets.
I'm not going to mess with it.
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 02:40:18 PM »
holy diver then
you'll lose a lot of output and keep a similar voicing, but you'll get a much warmer picking response (did this straight AM->HD swap recently)
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 02:55:16 PM »
I  have found (IMO) that with high outpbu ceramic pickups that the sound on the lower strings is
very good, nice and tight with good clarity, but this translates to  an almost single coil type of sound on the higher strings. This drives me crazy, I hear it with almost evey ceramic bridge pick up out there that I've tried.

I feel exactly the same! It's the reason I went "Alnico" on most guitars now.

I would encourage you to try the Holy Diver as well, I think it might be a little more suited for your style than the Nailbomb.
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 08:05:37 PM »
glad to hear it (and know I'm not crazy :D )
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2011, 09:56:24 PM »
I would count in a alnico warpig 7 too. mine sounds amazing in my Rg, its one of my most used recording guitars. The notes are warm and clear, the cleans are not bad either too
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2011, 10:32:21 PM »
My BRJ is all Mahogany with a maple top.
I have a Miracleman in my RG7620 and love it!
I'm pretty much decided on going with the HolyDiver (If I can get my hands on one)
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Re: 7 string bridge Aftermath..............not loving it
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2011, 01:09:11 AM »
One thing to try with the aftermath is to get that pickup really close to the strings like 2mm. Then back away the bass side until the bass sounds not so flabby. I realized with the aftermath it's all about pickup height it's really sensitive.
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