Why Hate Metalcore?

[Philly Q]

what's wrong with shabba ranks?

Unless you're talking rhyming slang...

...I just bloody hate that "Mr Loverman" song.  The tune, the lyrics, the arrangement, his voice.... it just bugs me, it makes me furious every time I hear it.  And - while I'm on the subject - I always associate it with "Boombastic" by Shaggy.  The two of them come across as such preening macho tossers.

[/irrational rant]

[Loomer]

I'm also convinced the reason this genre (Deathcore included) gets so much flak, is because it's brought back something we thought we'd gotten blissfully rid of when Glam Metal died:

Teenage Girls.

Let's face it, a lot of bands then, and now earn extra publicity points for having an attractive frontman. Would Bring Me The Horizon have gotten anywhere if they didn't have Oli "Fething teen Heartthrob" Sykes on vocals? Would Poison ever have hit it big if they didn't tart themselves up to make mid-80s High School girls all hot'n'bothered?

Not bloody likely, I say...

Of course, that makes all us basement-dwelling, beta-male troglodytes who couldn't even get laid in a "Omega Man"-type scenario very jealous. Hence the hate.

[Madsakre]

Now this is some extremely good metalcore imo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFMwsn5_Iag&feature=related

[CmdChicken]

Over the weekend, I finally got round to finding out what Grand Funk Railroad were about in the early 70s - and I was very pleasantly surprised. Even in the early 80s people were telling me they were stodgy cr@p... It's taken me 30 years to get round to giving them a go.

I'm not familiar with very much of their stuff, but I always thought the problem with what I have heard (many years ago) was lack of consistency - a couple of great tracks per album, but a big load of filler.

If you can find the Live 1971 album that version of Inside Looking Out makes all the filler worth it. 8)

[MrBump]

... What's Metalcore..?

[Sifu Ben]

That's the problem with many of these terms, they're really a press contrivance to allow them to nicely pigeonhole bands. They're also not especially consistent, bands like KSE and Shadow's Fall are a world away from many of the bands who are now described as metalcore.
The problem with all genre rock is the fact that the record companies all jump on bandwagons and sign up any old tat because "it's what the kids like". This is why the best examples often end up transcending the genre that spawned them. It's not a new phenomenon, look at all the awful formulaic hair metal bands, grunge bands, britpop bands, nu-metal bands etc etc who'd never have been signed if it hadn't been flavour of the week.

[Philly Q]

This is why the best examples often end up transcending the genre that spawned them. It's not a new phenomenon, look at all the awful formulaic hair metal bands, grunge bands, britpop bands, nu-metal bands etc etc who'd never have been signed if it hadn't been flavour of the week.

Very true.

[Transcend]

I dont even know what is considered metal core anymore

I quite enjoy killswitch engage but havent listened to an entire album just the odd track here and there.

I did like shadows fall.

But nowadays everything some tells me is "****"core and send me a track its utter shite with a load of screaming and mindless riffs such as job for a cowboy which a friend conned me into going to see...... i should have checked them out first as it was a horribly painful gig that just sounded like one 20  second breakdown repeated constantly for about an hour and apparently that was metalcore...

[nfe]

Job for a Cowboy certainly aren't a metalcore band, though metalcore des mean something quite different now than when it began, much like emo, or indeed R 'n'B.

[Roobubba]

Perhaps the question should be:

"Why Hate Metalcore, when there are so very many other things worthy of your hard-earned hatred?"

Like the Beatles, Mashed Potato, Parking Wardens, Telecasters and Middle lane drivers.

BURN THEM ALL!

[nfe]

Potato hating freak.

[MrBump]

Seriously?  Mashed potato too???

I used to think it was funny.  Now I just pity you.

[Madsakre]

What's wrong with potatoes :S

[Philly Q]

Perhaps the question should be:

"Why Hate Metalcore, when there are so very many other things worthy of your hard-earned hatred?"

Like the Beatles, Mashed Potato, Parking Wardens, Telecasters and Middle lane drivers.

BURN THEM ALL!

But why not hate Metalcore as well?  Be more inclusive!

[Matt77]

Perhaps the question should be:

"Why Hate Metalcore, when there are so very many other things worthy of your hard-earned hatred?"

Like the Beatles, Mashed Potato, Parking Wardens, Telecasters and Middle lane drivers.

BURN THEM ALL!

I used to be a potato farmer, I like the Beatles and I have a telecaster.
I presume you want to burn me  :)