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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2012, 12:59:24 PM »
Isn't it incredible how long it's taken the industry to realise most people don't need big amps?!

This has me wondering how long it will take the motor industry to realise that most (maybe even all) people don't need cars that go very fast.  :?

I have always been vaguely puzzled watching Top Gear when Clarkson and his comedy sidekicks have orgasms about cars which do 0-60 in three seconds and have a top speed of 180mph....

So what, quite frankly, unless you have regular access to a F1 test circuit?
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2012, 01:20:02 PM »
Top speed to me is irrelevant, but the acceleration is VERY important.  Hence I usually buy quick cars, and it's why I like motorbikes.

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2012, 01:47:53 PM »
Top speed to me is irrelevant, but the acceleration is VERY important.  Hence I usually buy quick cars, and it's why I like motorbikes.

It's the buzz you get from the power kicking in...

The acceleration could be seen as a safety feature also.

With amps, I know I don't need a 50w Marshall, but it works just about volume-wise in the house. It turns me on to know I'm playing through a vintage 1976 Marshall head :)

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2012, 01:51:56 PM »
Top speed to me is irrelevant, but the acceleration is VERY important.  Hence I usually buy quick cars, and it's why I like motorbikes.

It's the buzz you get from the power kicking in...

Agreed on acceleration being important - good for getting out of trouble and keeping roads running more efficiently!
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2012, 01:58:00 PM »
I do fancy the idea of the JCM1.

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2012, 02:23:48 PM »
^ gain would be nice!

Now you're just over-complicating things....

I too think that a gain control would be nice. Apart from that it sounds quite good, but the price tag seems a little steep.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2012, 02:33:54 PM »
I think Jonathan and Phil are just being pussies (joke!)

No offence taken, it's a fact in my case!  :lol:

Even when I was a kid I couldn't understand why manufacturers didn't make small (but quality) amps for low-volume applications. 

Actually, the Fender Champ used to get the odd mention in guitar mags - but more like it was a "studio secret" than something which should/could be widely available.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2012, 04:25:49 PM »
My 10w class A SE MJW power amp has more than enough volume for the sake of my neighbours and I haven't really ever turned it up very much.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2012, 10:01:41 AM »
I may be overcritical here, but I think 1W is a bit of a joke. For me the perfect watt range is 10-20Watts, as that enables you to get a good sound both in the bedroom and in rehearsal. Just as the 100Watt amp is too loud for at home, the 1W is too weak for outside of the bedroom. Marshall could have made those amps a single-ended EL34 amp - that is a classic Marshall tube after all (except for the very early ones) and that would make those amps far more flexible.

Keep in mind that amps like Hughes& Kettners Tubemeister (?) or ENGL's Gigmaster both are 15 Watts and have a built-in power soak. That is what is needed nowadays.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2012, 10:46:58 AM »
I may be overcritical here, but I think 1W is a bit of a joke. For me the perfect watt range is 10-20Watts, as that enables you to get a good sound both in the bedroom and in rehearsal. Just as the 100Watt amp is too loud for at home, the 1W is too weak for outside of the bedroom.

The majority of guitarists (or at least, people who own guitars and amps, they might not all consider themselves guitarists as such) never play outside the home. It's high time there were sensible (decent sounding) options widely available for them.

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2012, 11:02:52 AM »
See whilst i think these sound ok they dont sound very much like the real versions!

I personally find that a 50w is absolutely fine for bedroom use.

I find lower wattage amps dont have the oomph in the low end and dont really have any headroom and sound squashed and boxy.

I can see the appeal for these thought but at the price its utterly ridiculous. Id rather buy an amp that doesnt look like a toy and squash the hell out of it with an attenuator to get the same sound for less.

Edit: Or a PODHD as the models on them sound closer to the bigger amps than these do and its a load cheaper.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2012, 12:15:02 PM »
I personally find that a 50w is absolutely fine for bedroom use.
Dude, tell that to my neighbor. 15Watts is more than enough to easily get that guy fed up. I canīt usually even go where the speakers get working propperly.
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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2012, 12:17:10 PM »
I personally find that a 50w is absolutely fine for bedroom use.
Dude, tell that to my neighbor. 15Watts is more than enough to easily get that guy fed up. I canīt usually even go where the speakers get working propperly.

i guess ive always been lucky with neighbours.

I live in a block of flats currently and have only once had the guy come up asking if i could not play that particular day because he doesnt feel too well and thats in almost 2 years.

Or maybe i generally play so loud that i can thear them knocking on the door :P

But in all seriousness i can get a 100w SLO type amp to sound good at talking levels and those are damn loud amps.

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2012, 12:17:14 PM »
You don't have to have the speakers flapping for a good tone.  I use 100w heads for practice all the time.

They all have volume controls  ;)

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Re: 1W MARSHALLS FOR 2012
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2012, 01:13:19 PM »
I mean I am using a TT mostly and it is really not that I am playing load or that the speakers are flabbing or so.
I have to zoom in at about 1mm turn above sound coming out of the amp. I can sing louder than I turn my amp up ffs, but this guy....must be the bass or something, dunno.
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